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Offline xavierpope

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First Friday and Saturday reminder
« on: December 01, 2021, 12:32:26 PM »
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    • Hi, just to remind you that this Friday/ Saturday is first of the month 

    If you can make mass Friday in reparation for begogolio suppressing sacred heart devotion
    ( If what I read is true).
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    Re: First Friday and Saturday reminder
    « Reply #1 on: December 01, 2021, 02:00:21 PM »
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    • Bergoglio hasn't actually attempted that, yet... https://onepeterfive.com/pope-francis-suppresses-sacred-heart/
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    Re: First Friday and Saturday reminder
    « Reply #2 on: December 01, 2021, 02:10:27 PM »
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    • Just to remind everyone, to fulfill the first Saturday conditions you must meditate for 15 minutes on one or mysteries of the Rosary IN ADDITION to praying at least 5 decades. Back when I went to the novus ordo, I heard several priests say it "counts" for the 15 minutes if you're meditating while praying your 5 decades. This is false. You must pray/meditate as usual for the 5 decades, and before or after you must meditate for an ADDITIONAL 15 minutes on one or more mysteries. 

    So...

    At least 5 decades of the Rosary

    Then (before or after) 15 extra minutes meditating on 1 or more mysteries 
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    Re: First Friday and Saturday reminder
    « Reply #3 on: December 01, 2021, 08:23:53 PM »
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    • Isn't it sad, that when Our Mother or Jesus asks for something specific, mere humans always have to change things, and usually for the lesser.
    For first Friday, Jesus specifically asked for a Holy Hour at 11 PM. on Thursday (as that was the hour when He was in the garden in agony)but priests or someone felt it was enough to include it on Friday at an earlier hour for those so inclined to make the effort.
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    Re: First Friday and Saturday reminder
    « Reply #4 on: December 01, 2021, 08:46:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miseremini on December 01, 2021, 08:23:53 PM
    Isn't it sad, that when Our Mother or Jesus asks for something specific, mere humans always have to change things, and usually for the lesser.
    For first Friday, Jesus specifically asked for a Holy Hour at 11 PM. on Thursday (as that was the hour when He was in the garden in agony)but priests or someone felt it was enough to include it on Friday at an earlier hour for those so inclined to make the effort.

    Aren't you confusing that with a different devotion?  I'm pretty sure that Our Lady through St. Margaret Mary requested Holy Communion on the 9 First FRIDAYS.
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    Re: First Friday and Saturday reminder
    « Reply #5 on: December 01, 2021, 09:31:22 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on December 01, 2021, 08:46:10 PM
    Aren't you confusing that with a different devotion?  I'm pretty sure that Our Lady through St. Margaret Mary requested Holy Communion on the 9 First FRIDAYS.
    No I've been practicing the devotion for 70 years since my first Communion.  My home parish was Sacred Heart and we were very familiar with the devotion.  Our Blessed Mother didn't appear to St. Margaret Mary. 
    In addition to the First Friday devotion Our Lord asked for the Sacred Heart Badges to be made which a nun in St. Margaret's convent made. Venerable Ana Magdalena Rémuzat (1696-1730  worked hard to spread these badges. They were popular as a protection during the plague of Marseilles and also during the persecutions of the Catholics during the  French Revolution.  We should be renewing that practice now during Covid.
    Below I've highlighted the Thursday and Friday devotion to the Sacred Heart.


    St. Margaret Mary Alacoque, a French Roman Catholic Visitation nun and mystic, is greatly recognized for her devotion to the Sacred Heart of Jesus.
    She was born in 1647 in France as the only daughter of Claude and Philiberte Lamyn Alacoque. Margaret has always shown an intense love for the Blessed Sacrament and preferred silence over typical childhood play. She began practicing severe corporal mortification after her first communion at 9-years-old.
    She continued this until rheumatic fever confined her to her bed for four years. After making a vow to the Blessed Virgin Mary to consecrate herself to religious life, Margaret instantly returned to perfect health. In recognition of this favor, Margaret added the name Mary to her baptismal name.
    St. Margaret Mary Alacoque experienced visions of Jesus Christ for most of her life, but thought they were a normal part of life and continued to practice austerity.
    After the death of her father, Margaret and her family were forced into poverty when a relative refused to hand over the family's assets. Margaret's only comfort in life was her frequent visits to pray before the Blessed Sacrament at a local church.
    At 17-years-old, Margaret's family was able to regain control of their assets. Margaret's mother started encouraging her to become more social, in hopes she would find a suitable husband.
    One night, after attending a ball in an evening dress, Margaret had a vision of Christ, scourged and bloody. He accused Margaret of forgetting about him. He showed her that His heart was full of love for her because of the promise she made to His Blessed Mother as a child. After this vision, Margaret was determined to fulfill the vow she made years ago. She entered the Visitation Convent at Paray-le-Monial in May 1671 to become a nun.
    St. Margaret Mary was admitted to wearing the religious habit in August 1671 but was not officially admitted to profession until November 1672. Although she was described as humble, simple, kind and patient, Margaret had to prove the authenticity of her vocation.
    During her time in this monastery, Margaret received several private revelations of the Sacred Heart of Jesus. These visions showed her the "form of the devotion, the chief features being reception of Holy Communion on the first Friday of each month, Eucharistic adoration during a 'Holy hour' on Thursdays, and the celebration of the Feast of the Sacred Heart." The Lord Jesus requested His love be made evident through her.
    In her vision, she was instructed to spend an hour every Thursday night meditating on Jesus' Agony in the Garden of Gethsemane, a practice, known as "The Holy Hour," that later became widespread.
    In December 1673, Jesus appeared to Margaret Mary again, and allowed her to rest her head on His heart. His human heart was to be the symbol of His divine-human love. He revealed to her the wonders of His love. He explained to her that he wished to make these wonders known to all the world, and that He chose her for His work.
    Margaret Mary convinced her superior, Mother de Saumaise, her visions were authentic. However, she struggled with convincing others of the validity of her apparitions, even those in her own community. A group of theologians declared her visions delusions and suggested she eat better. Even parents of children she instructed began calling her an imposter.
    Margaret eventually gained the support from the community's confessor, St. Claude de la Colombiere, who declared her visions were genuine. Finally, all opposition from the community, regarding Margaret's visions, ended in 1683, when Margaret Mary became the assistant to the Superior.
    St. Margaret Mary, who later became known as Novice Mistress, led the monastery in observing the Feast of the Sacred Heart privately, and inspired the construction of a chapel built to honor the Sacred Heart.
    Margaret Mary died a couple of years later, at the age of 43, on October 17, 1690, while being anointed. She spoke the words, "I need nothing but God, and to lose myself in the heart of Jesus."
    After her death, the devotion to the Sacred Heart was adopted by the Jesuits but remained controversial within the Church. The practice did not become officially recognized until 75 years later.
    St. Margaret Mary Alacoque was the topic of discussion long after hear death. People talked about her mission and qualities, her revelations and spiritual maxims and her teachings on the Sacred Heart. On September 18, 1864, Margaret Mary was beatified by Pope Pius IX. When her tomb was opened a few years later, two immediate cures took place and her body laid incorrupt.
    St. Margaret Mary Alacoque was officially canonized on May 13, 1920 by Pope Benedict XV and, in 1928, Pope Pius XI upheld the Church's position regarding the credibility behind her visions of Jesus Christ. He stated Jesus "manifested Himself" to Margaret and the chief features of devotion to the Sacred Heart are "reception of Holy Communion on the first Friday of each month, Eucharistic adoration during a 'Holy hour' on Thursdays, and the celebration of the Feast of the Sacred Heart."
    St. Margaret Mary Alacoque is the patron saint of devotees of the Sacred Heart, and those suffering with polio and from the loss of parents. Her feast day is celebrated on October 16. St. Margaret Mary Alacoque, a French Roman Catholic Visitation nun and mystic, is greatly recognized for her devotion to the Sacred Heart of Jesus.



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    Re: First Friday and Saturday reminder
    « Reply #6 on: December 01, 2021, 09:44:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miseremini on December 01, 2021, 08:23:53 PM
    Isn't it sad, that when Our Mother or Jesus asks for something specific, mere humans always have to change things, and usually for the lesser.
    For first Friday, Jesus specifically asked for a Holy Hour at 11 PM. on Thursday (as that was the hour when He was in the garden in agony)but priests or someone felt it was enough to include it on Friday at an earlier hour for those so inclined to make the effort.
    Back when I was still attending the novus ordo, one church I went to had this holy hour from 11pm on the last Thursday until 12:00am on the first Friday, although I never actually knew our Lord asked this through St. Margaret Mary. I knew it was in reparation to the Sacred Heart because of the First Friday, but I didn't know our Lord actually requested it. Wonder why more established traditional chapels who have the means aren't doing this? Maybe we should make the request.
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    Re: First Friday and Saturday reminder
    « Reply #7 on: December 01, 2021, 10:00:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: Todd The Trad on December 01, 2021, 09:44:04 PM
    Back when I was still attending the novus ordo, one church I went to had this holy hour from 11pm on the last Thursday until 12:00am on the first Friday, although I never actually knew our Lord asked this through St. Margaret Mary. I knew it was in reparation to the Sacred Heart because of the First Friday, but I didn't know our Lord actually requested it. Wonder why more established traditional chapels who have the means aren't doing this? Maybe we should make the request.
    I've requested it a number of times but the young priests aren't interested.

    Can you imagine in the 1600's people going to the church in the dark, in all kinds of weather, walking, to make reparation to Our Lord's Sacred Heart and today we can't be bothered to get in a warm car and ride?  And those peasants had large families (maybe multi-generational) to care for and had to get up early on Friday to heavy manual labour... but they did it!
    And the next day they did it again for Mass and Communion.

    And we wonder why we're in such a mess.
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    Re: First Friday and Saturday reminder
    « Reply #8 on: December 01, 2021, 10:15:39 PM »
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    • Our Lord also requested a badge with the image of His Heart be worn.
    Here's the Sacred Heart woven fabric badge being used by a resistance chapel today.
    The First Friday devotion of reparation to the Sacred Heart of Jesus is much more than just Communion on 9 consecutive Fridays.



    https://discountrosaries.com/collections/scapulars?page=1


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    Re: First Friday and Saturday reminder
    « Reply #9 on: December 02, 2021, 06:30:35 AM »
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    • Quote from: Miseremini on December 01, 2021, 09:31:22 PM
    No I've been practicing the devotion for 70 years since my first Communion.  My home parish was Sacred Heart and we were very familiar with the devotion.  Our Blessed Mother didn't appear to St. Margaret Mary.

    Yes, I think you're conflating the separate devotions.  Those Promises of Our Lord were attached to the part about Holy Communion on 9 First Fridays.  They were all part of a larger devotion to the Sacred Heart of Jesus, but the promises were attached just to the part about Holy Communion on 9 First Fridays.  I don't believe that Our Lord required the other parts of devotion to the Sacred Heart to the Promise regarding not dying without the Sacraments.
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    Re: First Friday and Saturday reminder
    « Reply #10 on: December 02, 2021, 06:39:59 AM »
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    • Quote from: Miseremini on December 01, 2021, 10:15:39 PM
    The First Friday devotion of reparation to the Sacred Heart of Jesus is much more than just Communion on 9 consecutive Fridays.

    Devotion to the Sacred Heart is much more than just the Communion on 9 consecutive First Fridays, but "The First Friday devotion" is just that, receiving Holy Communion on 9 consective Fridays.

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    “On Friday during Holy Communion, He said these words to His unworthy slave, if I mistake not: ‘I promise you in the excessive mercy of My Heart that Its all-powerful love will grant to all those who receive Holy Communion on nine first Fridays of consecutive months the grace of final repentance; they will not die under My displeasure or without receiving their sacraments, My divine Heart making Itself their assured refuge at the last moment.'”


    So there's nothing in here with regard to receiving these Promises, not dying under Our Lord's displeasure or without receiving their sacraments, other than the Holy Communion on 9 consecutive First Fridays.  Technically it doesn't even have to be during Mass.  I knew priests who offered Mass on First Friday morning but then had a benediction with distribution of Holy Communion in the evening who could not make the morning Mass.  Also, I think there's some disagreement about whether Confessions was stipulated by Our Lord or just added later, basically with the notion that one cannot receive Holy Communion unless one is in a state of grace, lest people misinterpret this and go to Holy Communion unworthily by taking it out of context.
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