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Offline Jimmy

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Fight back or no?
« on: December 01, 2022, 08:44:01 PM »
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  • I've been aware of the Jєωιѕн stuff for as long as I have been alive, but up 'till recently, I just didn't care that much because there is nothing I can do about it. However, I watched Tim Pool for news most a bunch, and it is very depressing to keep seeing him do everything in his power to shill for and defend the Jєωs. It got me thinking, is this an issue we should fight back and stand up against, or is it our duty as Catholics to accept our lot in life and bear our crosses with patience. It seems to me that the only place Catholics are willing to stand up against this issue is anonymously on an online forum. I don't blame anyone for this, of coarse, 'cause its not like I'm doing anything different. It seems as if as soon as someone mentions the Jєωs not anonymously, their life is ruined.

    I've been thinking recently about the Crusades, and whether or not something like that would be possible in our day. I suppose it is not a great idea given the circuмstances of the Church right now. Does anyone have thoughts on this issue? Is it sinful to want to fight back? What can we as Catholics do to counteract the tactics of the Jєωs, since all their strategies would be sinful for us to use? We can't infiltrate them. We can't pretend to be Jєωιѕн to learn exactly what their plan is. We can only see what they do, recognize who it is, and speculate as to what they will do next. I don't think that that is good enough if we want the Church to be anything like it used to be back in 'the glory days' when almost all of Europe was Catholic. I'm at a loss, but maybe some of y'all have some ideas.


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    Re: Fight back or no?
    « Reply #1 on: December 01, 2022, 09:06:01 PM »
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  • Righteous anger is a good thing. 

    The best thing that I know of that we can do is pray the rosary and frequent the sacraments. Remember that God wins in the end. Lastly, I will sum up my feelings on the Jєωs with a quote from St. John Chrysostom, one of the great Doctors of the Church:

    The mercies of the Lord I will sing for ever. - Ps. 88:2a


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    Re: Fight back or no?
    « Reply #2 on: December 01, 2022, 09:18:39 PM »
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  • In "De Hebdomadibus" Boethius writes that "a common conception of the mind is that which is conclusive for anyone who hears it." A common conception is also a common notion and of these there are many. All that people need is the right relation of facts and common notions to get the picture. For example, that the Moon is frequently eclipsed.

    Without any virtue or recollection, however, things will fall apart. So to restore the sensus communis to some active good, there must be some authenticity and respect, but there's not that much authenticity or respect that is prevailing today. Many people are brainwashed not only vaccinated by lies. Thus as Merlin warned King Arthur, "it is the doom of men that they forget".

    That's why when I'm at the foodcourt at the mall, with many people I start with light conversation about which way the Moon goes and that ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic controlled NASA has never landed on it and can't today either. This Artemis tricknology's another fraud, for example.

    Ex luna scientia, and they need to pull the plug on "Nostra Aetate" and the Feral Rezerve Bank.

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    Re: Fight back or no?
    « Reply #3 on: December 02, 2022, 06:52:42 AM »
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  • I've been aware of the Jєωιѕн stuff for as long as I have been alive, but up 'till recently, I just didn't care that much because there is nothing I can do about it. However, I watched Tim Pool for news most a bunch, and it is very depressing to keep seeing him do everything in his power to shill for and defend the Jєωs. It got me thinking, is this an issue we should fight back and stand up against, or is it our duty as Catholics to accept our lot in life and bear our crosses with patience. It seems to me that the only place Catholics are willing to stand up against this issue is anonymously on an online forum. I don't blame anyone for this, of coarse, 'cause its not like I'm doing anything different. It seems as if as soon as someone mentions the Jєωs not anonymously, their life is ruined.

    I've been thinking recently about the Crusades, and whether or not something like that would be possible in our day. I suppose it is not a great idea given the circuмstances of the Church right now. Does anyone have thoughts on this issue? Is it sinful to want to fight back? What can we as Catholics do to counteract the tactics of the Jєωs, since all their strategies would be sinful for us to use? We can't infiltrate them. We can't pretend to be Jєωιѕн to learn exactly what their plan is. We can only see what they do, recognize who it is, and speculate as to what they will do next. I don't think that that is good enough if we want the Church to be anything like it used to be back in 'the glory days' when almost all of Europe was Catholic. I'm at a loss, but maybe some of y'all have some ideas.
    What’s the obsession about the Jєωs on this site?  Do you really think it would work to go underground as a Jєω?  People have tried it and still do, and failed, either caught and thrown out or completely ineffective in accomplishing anything for the reign of Christ the King.  Infiltrating your average American or western world temple or ѕуηαgσgυє, even if not found out, you’d gain no useful information.  You’d need to infiltrate a sect with political and financial influence in high places.  You’d need to gain access to the inner circle, not just be accepted as an ordinary congregant.  Do you speak and read unaccented, fluent Hebrew?  Yiddish?  Are you a recognized scholar of тαℓмυd, Torah, Kabbalah?  Are you filthy rich?  Even if you do understand Hebrew and Yiddish, you’ll not learn any nefarious plans by attending services and accepting the invite for Kiddush and the Shabbos meal at the rabbi’s house. 
    As for forming an army as in the Crusades or committing acts of sabotage or violence, are you really able to come against the Israeli military or the Mossad? 
    According to Our Lord, the remnant of Israel, the true Jєωs, will be converted in the end.  Why not polish up Our Lady’s most powerful weapon, the Rosary, and bombard the evil Jєωs with 54 megatons, and those hidden Jєωs of good will with Jesus’s Infinite Grace for conversion?  God knows who these are.  He doesn’t require you to spy them out! 
    If you’re personally acquainted with Jєωs of any variety, atheist to Ultra-orthodox, pray for them by name.  Speak the Truth of the Catholic Faith as the Holy Ghost guides.
    Of what use is becoming just another “αnтι-ѕємιтє” on TV and the internet? 
    Let your focus be on becoming a Catholic Saint.

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    Re: Fight back or no?
    « Reply #4 on: December 02, 2022, 07:23:33 AM »
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  • What’s the obsession about the Jєωs on this site?  
    So, you're suggesting we should be oblivious to the people relentlessly pushing sodomy, trannyism, porn, mass immigration, abortion, marxism, wokism, miscegenation, feminism, ugliness in the arts, ethnic self hatred, debasement of currency, the vax, freedom of travel, etc?
    Just stick our heads in the sand, is that it?


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    Re: Fight back or no?
    « Reply #5 on: December 02, 2022, 07:31:08 AM »
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  • So, you're suggesting we should be oblivious to the people relentlessly pushing sodomy, trannyism, porn, mass immigration, abortion, marxism, wokism, miscegenation, feminism, ugliness in the arts, ethnic self hatred, debasement of currency, the vax, freedom of travel, etc?
    Just stick our heads in the sand, is that it?

    Would be kind of nice though :)

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    Re: Fight back or no?
    « Reply #6 on: December 02, 2022, 07:56:36 AM »
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  • So, praying the Rosary for and against the Jєωs is sticking our heads in the sand?  Just WOW!
    Maybe you prefer this method?  I hear they’re taking recruits!


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    Re: Fight back or no?
    « Reply #7 on: December 02, 2022, 08:12:05 AM »
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  • So, praying the Rosary for and against the Jєωs is sticking our heads in the sand?  
    No, we pray the rosary AND we become as wise as serpents. Perhaps the efficacy of the rosary
    partially involves being given the grace of discernment into...I don't know, maybe who is trying to genocide us
    out of existence, install the antichrist, turn your child into a troon?
     


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    Re: Fight back or no?
    « Reply #8 on: December 02, 2022, 08:19:57 AM »
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  • So, praying the Rosary for and against the Jєωs is sticking our heads in the sand?  Just WOW!
    Maybe you prefer this method?  I hear they’re taking recruits!


    I meant no offense to you mate, I was just having a laugh :). Of coarse praying the rosary is great. I do have to agree with Bernardo on this one though. We pray during times of both peace and war, but in times of war, I think it takes a little more than prayer. I think we can justly say we are at war with the Jєωs for obvious reasons. I have no idea what else we could be doing, which is why I started this thread, so maybe the best thing we can do is pray.

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    Re: Fight back or no?
    « Reply #9 on: December 02, 2022, 09:02:01 AM »
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  • No offense taken!  Obviously, I’m not seriously suggesting anyone join ISIS or whoever these folks claim to be.  Here’s an idea, maybe.  Go visit a ѕуηαgσgυє with a Rosary in your pocket and pray it in secret.  Or hide a green scapular or St. Benedict medal on the premises if the idea of engaging in stealth warfare appeals to you.

    If you really know the Faith up, down, left, right, and inside out, plus are well conversant with Jєωιѕн beliefs, offer to debate a rabbi or other prominent Jєω.  (But make absolutely certain you know your stuff plus the various strategies and tricks used by the enemy.)  On a lesser level, openly fight ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic influence of pornography, the lies of the MSM, public schools and politicians brainwashing our children, laws that offend Our Lord, the public display of the demonic, and those Communists who’d steal from us our rights by God’s and natural law. 

    Unless I miss my guess, you’re a dedicated young manly Catholic, so wanting to engage in physical warfare for Christ is in your God-given nature. It sounds as if your parents brought you up right and didn’t allow you to be turned into a girly guy, so typical today. Maybe find some like-minded men and join or start an organization.  And if you’re not married and don’t have a religious vocation, there are young single Catholic women out there looking for husbands!;)  (I’m NOT referring to myself, lest someone on here get the wrong idea!)

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    Re: Fight back or no?
    « Reply #10 on: December 02, 2022, 09:59:04 AM »
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  • Here’s an idea, maybe.  Go visit a ѕуηαgσgυє with a Rosary in your pocket and pray it in secret.  Or hide a green scapular or St. Benedict medal on the premises if the idea of engaging in stealth warfare appeals to you.

    If you really know the Faith up, down, left, right, and inside out, plus are well conversant with Jєωιѕн beliefs, offer to debate a rabbi or other prominent Jєω.  (But make absolutely certain you know your stuff plus the various strategies and tricks used by the enemy.)  On a lesser level, openly fight ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic influence of pornography, the lies of the MSM, public schools and politicians brainwashing our children, laws that offend Our Lord, the public display of the demonic, and those Communists who’d steal from us our rights by God’s and natural law

    Unless I miss my guess, you’re a dedicated young manly Catholic, so wanting to engage in physical warfare for Christ is in your God-given nature. It sounds as if your parents brought you up right and didn’t allow you to be turned into a girly guy, so typical today. Maybe find some like-minded men and join or start an organization.  And if you’re not married and don’t have a religious vocation, there are young single Catholic women out there looking for husbands!;)  (I’m NOT referring to myself, lest someone on here get the wrong idea!)

    Placing blessed St. Benedict medals around the four corners of ѕуηαgσgυєs, temples,, mosques, and other demonic places of influence is an EXCELLENT way to fight in this Spiritual War we are engaged in.

    Gather a group of young men and women together to do public rosary rallies, pro-life protests, etc.

    Again, righteous anger is a GOOD thing. God gave us our passions and they are pleasing when we use them as they are intended!
    The mercies of the Lord I will sing for ever. - Ps. 88:2a


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    Re: Fight back or no?
    « Reply #11 on: December 02, 2022, 11:39:38 AM »
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  • Hate, is used with this saint?!  WE have be commanded to convert.  Sure Jєωs are devilish, Our Lady said the demons would do their evil through them.  But Hate, I question that.

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    Re: Fight back or no?
    « Reply #12 on: December 02, 2022, 01:22:11 PM »
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  • People like to throw around the phrase "hate the sin, love the sinner" and I think that's acceptable to a point. But we're talking about Jєωs here. They are not mere sinners in the context of that cliche phrase above. 

    They don't believe they're committing any sin by doing the work of Satan, and if they do then they're doing it obstinately. I believe the Holy Ghost has made two pertinent statements on this matter:

    "[25] And the whole people answering, said: His blood be upon us and our children." - Matthew 27:25

    "[14] For you, brethren, are become followers of the churches of God which are in Judea, in Christ Jesus: for you also have suffered the same things from your own countrymen, even as they have from the Jєωs, [15] Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and the prophets, and have persecuted us, and please not God, and are adversaries to all men; [16] Prohibiting us to speak to the Gentiles, that they may be saved, to fill up their sins always: for the wrath of God is come upon them to the end." - 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16

    Should I love Satan? Should I pray for him? What about praying for demons?

    What does the name "Satan" mean?
    The mercies of the Lord I will sing for ever. - Ps. 88:2a

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    Re: Fight back or no?
    « Reply #13 on: December 02, 2022, 02:20:46 PM »
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  • People like to throw around the phrase "hate the sin, love the sinner" and I think that's acceptable to a point. But we're talking about Jєωs here. They are not mere sinners in the context of that cliche phrase above.

    They don't believe they're committing any sin by doing the work of Satan, and if they do then they're doing it obstinately. I believe the Holy Ghost has made two pertinent statements on this matter:

    "[25] And the whole people answering, said: His blood be upon us and our children." - Matthew 27:25

    "[14] For you, brethren, are become followers of the churches of God which are in Judea, in Christ Jesus: for you also have suffered the same things from your own countrymen, even as they have from the Jєωs, [15] Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and the prophets, and have persecuted us, and please not God, and are adversaries to all men; [16] Prohibiting us to speak to the Gentiles, that they may be saved, to fill up their sins always: for the wrath of God is come upon them to the end." - 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16

    Should I love Satan? Should I pray for him? What about praying for demons?

    What does the name "Satan" mean?
    Correct me if I am wrong, but I think there is a difference between praying for those who have already been judged and those who are still living. It is futile to pray for Satan and all those in hell because God has already judged their life and there is no changing for then.

    For living folks it is a bit different. We still have a choice to change our life for the better. Many folks are born Jєωιѕн, but they have all their life to choose to convert. I don’t harbor any hatred for Jєωs, but I don’t trust them, nor will I ever trust anyone who was born Jєωιѕн or married Jєωιѕн. I wouldn’t even trust a Jєωιѕн convert.

    That being said, God knows their souls better than I do. I lost my faith for a few years, but God gave me the grace to come back to the Faith. I could have died at any time in the past few years, and I would have gone straight to Hell. I like to believe that the grace God gave to me was spurred by some good Catholic’s prayers, and I think that even folks that were born Jєωιѕн deserve the ability to receive God’s grace to enable them to convert. 

    Those are my thoughts, though I may be taking a naive view of it. There are way smarter folks and better Catholics than me on this forum, so if you have heard differently, let me know :)

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    Re: Fight back or no?
    « Reply #14 on: December 02, 2022, 02:49:50 PM »
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  • Correct me if I am wrong, but I think there is a difference between praying for those who have already been judged and those who are still living. It is futile to pray for Satan and all those in hell because God has already judged their life and there is no changing for then.

    For living folks it is a bit different. We still have a choice to change our life for the better. Many folks are born Jєωιѕн, but they have all their life to choose to convert. I don’t harbor any hatred for Jєωs, but I don’t trust them, nor will I ever trust anyone who was born Jєωιѕн or married Jєωιѕн. I wouldn’t even trust a Jєωιѕн convert.

    That being said, God knows their souls better than I do. I lost my faith for a few years, but God gave me the grace to come back to the Faith. I could have died at any time in the past few years, and I would have gone straight to Hell. I like to believe that the grace God gave to me was spurred by some good Catholic’s prayers, and I think that even folks that were born Jєωιѕн deserve the ability to receive God’s grace to enable them to convert.

    Those are my thoughts, though I may be taking a naive view of it. There are way smarter folks and better Catholics than me on this forum, so if you have heard differently, let me know :)
    I just want to add that even though I don't hate the Jєωs, I do find it hard some times not to hate them, and I would not hesitate to take action against them in order to fight for the Faith. You guys know from the start of this thread that I desire to do something to stop the Jєωs. I just wanted to clarify that. I don't want to seem hypocritical.