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Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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Re: FBI Seeks SSPX Leadership Informants
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2023, 09:05:02 PM »
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  • Are the Sspx chapels under diocesan bishops?
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    Re: FBI Seeks SSPX Leadership Informants
    « Reply #16 on: April 12, 2023, 05:24:35 AM »
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  • Are the Sspx chapels under diocesan bishops?
    At least partially, yes (ie., the SSPX will not perform weddings without receiving the delegation from the local bishop, and in France, when a couple was married without it by one of their priests, the SSPX applied to a bishop for a sanatio in radice).

    Doing that suggests the SSPX believes it’s marriages are invalid without the delegation.

    Should the rest of us married by the SSPX without delegation also now be required to apply to the local bishop for sanation of our marriages?
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    Re: FBI Seeks SSPX Leadership Informants
    « Reply #17 on: April 12, 2023, 06:31:11 AM »
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  • I wonder if they targetted Saint Athanasius (Fr. Ringrose).

    But I'm sure that the SSPX leadership would be happy to cooperate in exchange for some donations to help with their various building projects.

    I count Fr Ringrose as a personal friend of mine, and I have every confidence that he would tell them to pound sand.

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    Re: FBI Seeks SSPX Leadership Informants
    « Reply #18 on: April 12, 2023, 06:50:42 AM »
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  • I count Fr Ringrose as a personal friend of mine, and I have every confidence that he would tell them to pound sand.
    I think Father Ringrose does have to be careful being where he is and so close to Washington D.C.  I think that this is the reason why he temporarily shut down Saint Athanasius during COVID until he could figure out a way to follow the rules and still have Mass.  He was partially open again by Easter 2020 but since then there have been drones sighted watching the chapel and more.  I remember there being a "night watch" every night at the chapel for awhile because there were concerns that something fishy was going on.
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    Re: FBI Seeks SSPX Leadership Informants
    « Reply #19 on: May 01, 2023, 11:51:26 AM »
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  • EXCLUSIVE: Latin Mass Churchgoers Witnessed Suspicious Activity After FBI’s ‘Radical-Traditional Catholic’ Memo
    Tyler O'Neil  / @Tyler2ONeil / April 30, 2023


    https://www.dailysignal.com/2023/04/30/exclusive-fbi-agents-appear-place-traditional-catholic-church-surveillance-sources-say/

    Sun shines on Immaculate Heart of Mary Chapel in Linden, Virginia
    Two parishioners at Immaculate Heart of Mary Chapel in Linden, Virginia (pictured) told The Daily Signal that they witnessed two vehicles they suspected were associated with the FBI, a month after the FBI's Richmond office released a memo urging agents to develop sources with access at traditional Roman Catholic churches, citing the Southern Poverty Law Center. (Google street view, Oct. 2021)

    FIRST ON THE DAILY SIGNAL—Two parishioners at a Latin Mass Catholic church in rural Northern Virginia say they witnessed suspicious activity from what looked like FBI vehicles in February, a month after the FBI’s Richmond office published a now-rescinded internal memo focused on “radical-traditional Catholics.”
    The FBI’s Washington, D.C., office, which monitors the church’s area, denied any knowledge of such activity in a statement to The Daily Signal.
    The two witnesses told The Daily Signal that they saw two cars approach the church, drive through the parking lot as if they were writing down license plate numbers, and then leave, on two separate instances outside Immaculate Heart of Mary Chapel in Linden, Virginia, some 63 miles west of Washington, D.C., between Feb. 12 and Feb. 26. (The memo had been published on Jan. 23 and rescinded on Feb. 9.)
    “I saw a black Ford car with dark tinted windows and a knoblike antenna on the top,” one parishioner, who spoke on the condition on anonymity, told The Daily Signal. “It was driving very slowly by all the cars, and I could see a laptop in the center front.”

    “I could not see the person inside, and no one ever got out,” the witness added. “They did leave as soon as they saw me looking at them.”
    “I saw a white [Chevrolet] Tahoe car, with very tinted windows and lots of antennas, driving slowly through the parking lot,” the other witness told The Daily Signal, also speaking on the condition of anonymity. “Looked like a male. He had an open laptop in the middle of the car, not sure if he was typing, as the window was very dark.”
    “He never got out of the car, but by the time I saw him, he was on his way out, and drove back towards the highway after pulling through,” the second parishioner added. “Not sure how long he was out there, as we were all inside. Everyone else was still inside the chapel, so he must have been going around while we were all inside at Mass/catechism.”
    “I suspect that it was the FBI,” the witness added. “However, I could not confirm, since he never got out of the car.”
    The witnesses reached out to The Heritage Foundation’s Oversight Project, which connected them with The Daily Signal. (The Daily Signal is The Heritage Foundation’s media outlet.)
    Sacred Heart of Mary Chapel is affiliated with the Society of Saint Pius X, a traditional international priestly society that comprises almost 700 priests and supports the Latin Mass.
    “The Washington Field Office is not aware of that activity,” the FBI national office, speaking on behalf of its satellite location in D.C., told The Daily Signal in an emailed statement Friday.
    The incidents took place about a month after the FBI published an internal memo urging agents to develop “sources with access,” including in “places of worship,” to probe an alleged relationship between “racially or ethnically motivated, violent extremists” and “radical-traditional Catholic ideology.” The memo, dated Jan. 23, cited the Southern Poverty Law Center, a left-leaning litigation nonprofit infamous for branding mainstream conservative and Christian organizations “hate groups,” placing them on a map alongside chapters of the Ku Klux Klan.
    After a whistleblower published the memo on Feb. 8, the FBI’s national office rescinded it on Feb. 9.
    “While our standard practice is to not comment on specific intelligence products, this particular field office product—disseminated only within the FBI—regarding racially or ethnically motivated violent extremism does not meet the exacting standards of the FBI,” the FBI told The Daily Signal in a statement at the time.
    “Upon learning of the docuмent, FBI headquarters quickly began taking action to remove the docuмent from FBI systems and conduct a review of the basis for the docuмent,” the bureau added. “The FBI is committed to sound analytic tradecraft and to investigating and preventing acts of violence and other crimes, while upholding the constitutional rights of all Americans and will never conduct investigative activities or open an investigation based solely on First Amendment-protected activity.”
    The FBI national office directed The Daily Signal to remarks from FBI Director Christopher Wray on March 8 before the Senate Intelligence Committee.
    “Well, first, let me say that when I first learned of the piece, I was aghast,” Wray said at the time. “And we took steps immediately to withdraw it and remove it from FBI systems. It does not reflect FBI standards.”
    “We do not conduct investigations based on religious affiliation or practices, full stop,” the director added. “We have also now ordered our inspection division to take a look at how this happened and try to figure out how we can make sure something like this doesn’t happen again. I will note, it was a product by one field office, which of course we have scores and scores of these products, and when we found out about it, we took action.”
    “We do not and will not target people for religious beliefs, and we do not and will not monitor people’s religious practices,” he added. “That’s not acceptable.”

    The FBI statements have not addressed why the memo cited the Southern Poverty Law Center. As I explain in my book “
    [/url],” the SPLC took the program it used to bankrupt organizations associated with the Ku Klux Klan and weaponized it against conservative groups, partially to scare donors into ponying up cash and partially to silence ideological opponents. [/size]
    In 2018, then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions said he ordered the Justice Department—of which the FBI is a part—not to partner with groups that “discriminate.” Speaking of the SPLC, Sessions pledged that the Justice Department would not “partner with groups that unfairly defame Americans for standing up for the Constitution or their faith.”
    Kyle Seraphin, the former FBI agent who leaked the memo, joined other FBI sources in telling The Daily Signal that the FBI had previously trained analysts not to cite the SPLC.
    The Front Royal Police Department, which covers Linden, did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the incidents.
    Have an opinion about this article? To sound off, please email letters@DailySignal.com and we’ll consider publishing your edited remarks in our regular “We Hear You” feature. Remember to include the url or headline of the article plus your name and town and/or state.
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    Re: FBI Seeks SSPX Leadership Informants
    « Reply #20 on: May 01, 2023, 12:55:04 PM »
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  • I wonder if John MacFarland is their informant

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    Re: FBI Seeks SSPX Leadership Informants
    « Reply #21 on: May 01, 2023, 01:08:11 PM »
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  • The FBI is absurd for this monstrous injustice. Remember brothers and sisters, we are in a battle for the traditional Catholic faith. The lord is our shepherd, we will not stop fighting. :incense:
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    Re: FBI Seeks SSPX Leadership Informants
    « Reply #22 on: May 01, 2023, 03:21:00 PM »
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  • EXCLUSIVE: Latin Mass Churchgoers Witnessed Suspicious Activity After FBI’s ‘Radical-Traditional Catholic’ Memo
    Tyler O'Neil  / @Tyler2ONeil / April 30, 2023


    https://www.dailysignal.com/2023/04/30/exclusive-fbi-agents-appear-place-traditional-catholic-church-surveillance-sources-say/

    Sun shines on Immaculate Heart of Mary Chapel in Linden, Virginia
    Two parishioners at Immaculate Heart of Mary Chapel in Linden, Virginia (pictured) told The Daily Signal that they witnessed two vehicles they suspected were associated with the FBI, a month after the FBI's Richmond office released a memo urging agents to develop sources with access at traditional Roman Catholic churches, citing the Southern Poverty Law Center. (Google street view, Oct. 2021)

    FIRST ON THE DAILY SIGNAL—Two parishioners at a Latin Mass Catholic church in rural Northern Virginia say they witnessed suspicious activity from what looked like FBI vehicles in February, a month after the FBI’s Richmond office published a now-rescinded internal memo focused on “radical-traditional Catholics.”
    The FBI’s Washington, D.C., office, which monitors the church’s area, denied any knowledge of such activity in a statement to The Daily Signal.
    The two witnesses told The Daily Signal that they saw two cars approach the church, drive through the parking lot as if they were writing down license plate numbers, and then leave, on two separate instances outside Immaculate Heart of Mary Chapel in Linden, Virginia, some 63 miles west of Washington, D.C., between Feb. 12 and Feb. 26. (The memo had been published on Jan. 23 and rescinded on Feb. 9.)
    “I saw a black Ford car with dark tinted windows and a knoblike antenna on the top,” one parishioner, who spoke on the condition on anonymity, told The Daily Signal. “It was driving very slowly by all the cars, and I could see a laptop in the center front.”

    “I could not see the person inside, and no one ever got out,” the witness added. “They did leave as soon as they saw me looking at them.”
    “I saw a white [Chevrolet] Tahoe car, with very tinted windows and lots of antennas, driving slowly through the parking lot,” the other witness told The Daily Signal, also speaking on the condition of anonymity. “Looked like a male. He had an open laptop in the middle of the car, not sure if he was typing, as the window was very dark.”
    “He never got out of the car, but by the time I saw him, he was on his way out, and drove back towards the highway after pulling through,” the second parishioner added. “Not sure how long he was out there, as we were all inside. Everyone else was still inside the chapel, so he must have been going around while we were all inside at Mass/catechism.”
    “I suspect that it was the FBI,” the witness added. “However, I could not confirm, since he never got out of the car.”
    The witnesses reached out to The Heritage Foundation’s Oversight Project, which connected them with The Daily Signal. (The Daily Signal is The Heritage Foundation’s media outlet.)
    Sacred Heart of Mary Chapel is affiliated with the Society of Saint Pius X, a traditional international priestly society that comprises almost 700 priests and supports the Latin Mass.
    “The Washington Field Office is not aware of that activity,” the FBI national office, speaking on behalf of its satellite location in D.C., told The Daily Signal in an emailed statement Friday.
    The incidents took place about a month after the FBI published an internal memo urging agents to develop “sources with access,” including in “places of worship,” to probe an alleged relationship between “racially or ethnically motivated, violent extremists” and “radical-traditional Catholic ideology.” The memo, dated Jan. 23, cited the Southern Poverty Law Center, a left-leaning litigation nonprofit infamous for branding mainstream conservative and Christian organizations “hate groups,” placing them on a map alongside chapters of the Ku Klux Klan.
    After a whistleblower published the memo on Feb. 8, the FBI’s national office rescinded it on Feb. 9.
    “While our standard practice is to not comment on specific intelligence products, this particular field office product—disseminated only within the FBI—regarding racially or ethnically motivated violent extremism does not meet the exacting standards of the FBI,” the FBI told The Daily Signal in a statement at the time.
    “Upon learning of the docuмent, FBI headquarters quickly began taking action to remove the docuмent from FBI systems and conduct a review of the basis for the docuмent,” the bureau added. “The FBI is committed to sound analytic tradecraft and to investigating and preventing acts of violence and other crimes, while upholding the constitutional rights of all Americans and will never conduct investigative activities or open an investigation based solely on First Amendment-protected activity.”
    The FBI national office directed The Daily Signal to remarks from FBI Director Christopher Wray on March 8 before the Senate Intelligence Committee.
    “Well, first, let me say that when I first learned of the piece, I was aghast,” Wray said at the time. “And we took steps immediately to withdraw it and remove it from FBI systems. It does not reflect FBI standards.”
    “We do not conduct investigations based on religious affiliation or practices, full stop,” the director added. “We have also now ordered our inspection division to take a look at how this happened and try to figure out how we can make sure something like this doesn’t happen again. I will note, it was a product by one field office, which of course we have scores and scores of these products, and when we found out about it, we took action.”
    “We do not and will not target people for religious beliefs, and we do not and will not monitor people’s religious practices,” he added. “That’s not acceptable.”

    The FBI statements have not addressed why the memo cited the Southern Poverty Law Center. As I explain in my book “
    [/url],” the SPLC took the program it used to bankrupt organizations associated with the Ku Klux Klan and weaponized it against conservative groups, partially to scare donors into ponying up cash and partially to silence ideological opponents. [/size]
    In 2018, then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions said he ordered the Justice Department—of which the FBI is a part—not to partner with groups that “discriminate.” Speaking of the SPLC, Sessions pledged that the Justice Department would not “partner with groups that unfairly defame Americans for standing up for the Constitution or their faith.”
    Kyle Seraphin, the former FBI agent who leaked the memo, joined other FBI sources in telling The Daily Signal that the FBI had previously trained analysts not to cite the SPLC.
    The Front Royal Police Department, which covers Linden, did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the incidents.
    Have an opinion about this article? To sound off, please email letters@DailySignal.com and we’ll consider publishing your edited remarks in our regular “We Hear You” feature. Remember to include the url or headline of the article plus your name and town and/or state.
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    Oh, wow...  Hadn't heard of this one yet...  And it is our local area. 

    I know there have been a lot of tensions between the local novus ordo parish priest and the FSSPX Linden chapel.  I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't the FBI but a reporter for the diocese.  😅
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    Re: FBI Seeks SSPX Leadership Informants
    « Reply #23 on: May 01, 2023, 05:02:22 PM »
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    Re: FBI Seeks SSPX Leadership Informants
    « Reply #24 on: May 02, 2023, 01:33:06 AM »
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  • If I’m down south this fall, I think I’ll park elsewhere and take an Uber or taxi to Mass.  🚖 

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    Re: FBI Seeks SSPX Leadership Informants
    « Reply #25 on: May 02, 2023, 02:11:19 PM »
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  • I count Fr Ringrose as a personal friend of mine, and I have every confidence that he would tell them to pound sand.


    Father's chapel has been infested with Marranos for years.
    If the FBI needed any personal information on the faithful
    , it is easily available.
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    Re: FBI Seeks SSPX Leadership Informants
    « Reply #26 on: May 02, 2023, 04:16:01 PM »
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  • Eusate Mullins used to call the FBI the Federal Reserve Bank Police. Some people don't know that the Federal Reserve Bank has police and that's them.

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    Re: FBI Seeks SSPX Leadership Informants
    « Reply #27 on: May 02, 2023, 04:16:48 PM »
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    Re: FBI Seeks SSPX Leadership Informants
    « Reply #28 on: March 10, 2025, 07:30:55 AM »
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  • FBI Caught Infiltrating Catholic Churches To Find Out If Members Are "Racist" Or "Antisemitic"

    https://www.sgtreport.com/2023/04/fbi-caught-infiltrating-catholic-churches-to-find-out-if-members-are-racist-or-antisemitic/

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    Re: FBI Seeks SSPX Leadership Informants
    « Reply #29 on: March 10, 2025, 08:07:03 AM »
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  • And they spy on us using not so smart tv in chapels and churches.

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