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Offline josefamenendez

Re: Fame should be deserved
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2021, 08:11:02 AM »
"Just because the world is so messed-up that choosing not to kill your baby seems heroic, doesn't make you a real hero"

I disagree. When a woman changes her mind not to abort, she changes her way of thinking, her "culture" her support system, her lifestyle, respect in the eyes of her community, her income, her living arrangements and many times loses her friends and family in the process, including the baby's father. It's a lot more heroic than what most people consider heroic these days (Dancing CÖVÌD nurses?). Even more important, it there might actually be a miraculous conversion taking place.
The culture is so damaged and imprisoning that when someone breaks free of it is truly heroic; it can only come from God.
(I'm not saying she is a Saint however)
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Fame should be deserved
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2021, 10:17:01 AM »
Quote from: XavierSem on June 13, 2021, 09:50:30 AM
I believe what Dr. Marshall, Steve Skojec at 1P5, John Henry Westem at LifeSiteNews etc, are doing is a very good service to the Faith.

We'll agree to disagree on this.  For every one or two things they get right, they get two or three things wrong.  That causes harm.  And even if you believe they get 95% or even 99% right, that makes the 1% error that much more palatable.  And for every one of these "lay apostolates" that you claim are doing good, there are a dozen that are doing incalculable harm.  There's a vacuum here due to a paucity of Catholic clergy who still have the faith, and the void is being filled by the lay apostolates, but it's contrary to the mind of the Church prior to Vatican II to have these things floating out there.

What do you think of the "lay apostolate" of the Dimonds?  What if I started a popular blog and video casts arguing against Baptism of Desire?  What about the various sedevacantist lay apostolates?  Starting to see why this is a problem?
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Offline Matthew

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Re: Fame should be deserved
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2021, 11:48:04 AM »
Quote from: josefamenendez on June 13, 2021, 08:11:02 AM
Quote from: josefamenendez on Sun Jun 13 2021 08:11:02 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time)
"Just because the world is so messed-up that choosing not to kill your baby seems heroic, doesn't make you a real hero"

I disagree. When a woman changes her mind not to abort, she changes her way of thinking, her "culture" her support system, her lifestyle, respect in the eyes of her community, her income, her living arrangements and many times loses her friends and family in the process, including the baby's father. It's a lot more heroic than what most people consider heroic these days (Dancing CÖVÌD nurses?). Even more important, it there might actually be a miraculous conversion taking place.
The culture is so damaged and imprisoning that when someone breaks free of it is truly heroic; it can only come from God.
(I'm not saying she is a Saint however)


My point is that the 100 women who have no need of conversion are better off -- they aren't damaged goods. Isn't it heroic to keep to the truth, oppose the world, and never make a mistake in the first place? I'd say they're the bigger heroes. And they never had an abortion either... so they must be heroes too.

This isn't about getting more attention from the shepherd -- (Our Lord's parable about the Lost Sheep) -- this is about who is to be held up for admiration as a hero -- or even who is more fit to teach others.

And the sheep that was lost & found certainly isn't especially qualified to be a shepherd, even if there's a shepherd shortage!
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Fame should be deserved
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2021, 04:10:29 PM »

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I believe what Dr. Marshall, Steve Skojec at 1P5, John Henry Westem at LifeSiteNews etc, are doing is a very good service to the Faith.

If the Faith were their primary motivation, then they'd work for free.  I'm not saying they are fake catholics, but there's just something uncatholic about selling the Faith through books, speaker fees, news stories, etc.
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Offline Matthew

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Re: Fame should be deserved
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2021, 05:35:39 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on June 13, 2021, 07:15:11 AM
There's more to +Vigano than captain obvious.  We had +Fellay claiming that 95% of Vatican II is acceptable, and +Vigano (coming from the Conciliar Church) CREDIBLY argues that the entire thing is contaminated and unacceptable.  Apart from the Resistance and SVs, he's the only voice out there asserting that V2 is radically defective.  And he makes a compelling case.  He's articulated that case better than anyone else I've read in the Traditional movement.  He's also in a unique position of being able to do a lot of good because of his perceived authority and his credibility.  He's being persuasive even to the conservative wing of the Novus Ordo because of his unique position.  Those types will not listen to a Bishop Williamson or the Resistance priests, much less the sedevacantists, but +Vigano has gotten their attention.  Perhaps he can help shake them out of their "hermeneutic of continuity" mindset regarding Vatican II.  That approach is actually the chief obstacle to people becoming Traditional Catholic.
My thoughts exactly.
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