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Fallen Away Catholics become "Devout" Protestants
« on: May 14, 2017, 03:59:33 AM »
I am from a Catholic culture, Spanish, every single family member going back like forever was baptized into the Church as an infant. On the other hand, few lived a Catholic life, 8 out of 10 were fallen away Catholics, specially the men, and the few that went to mass, only went to "punch in their cards" on Sundays, and not every Sunday at that. A serious Catholic? I doubt there were more than 10 among 300. Most of them received the priest at heir deathbed or close to it. Whether they did a good confession or not only God knows. From my experience in Spain, Latin America, Italy, and France what I described was the "standard" of Catholic countries, and basically only a few old ladies lived the Catholic life. Baptized as infants "Catholics" when they could decide for themselves either went to punch in their cards on Sunday, or became fallen away Catholics. One thing was a certain, no one became a Protestant. To a fallen away Catholic, Protestantism was moronic, if one is going to hell for their sins, one might as well enjoy themselves in sin. They knew that devout Protestants were just fools going to hell without ever enjoying life on earth.

Fast forward to today. The "devout" family members have all become Protestants or New Age religions. They speak to you about Scripture, and God, and the sinning world. I NEVER heard anyone in my family speak about religion before. They are all divorced, or their children are a disaster, divorced, fornicating and worse. But they are "religous".

What i just described is happening all over South America. It is the template of what has become of the Vatican II church statistical 1 billion baptized Catholics throughout the world. 

What brought this about? It is one thing, the Vatican II church legitimized all religions. The Vatican II church in practice told Catholics that they did not need to belong to the Catholic Church and LIVE a REAL Catholic life to be saved, that anyone that everyone who is "religious" will  be saved. The Vatican II church is no different than any Protestant church, so, the Catholics joined one of the other churches or religions.  

Re: Fallen Away Catholics become "Devout" Protestants
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2017, 04:12:45 AM »
The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962


Re: Fallen Away Catholics become "Devout" Protestants
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2017, 04:19:22 AM »
10And in all seduction of iniquity to them that perish; because they receive not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.  11Therefore God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying: 12That all may be judged who have not believed the truth, but have consented to iniquity. (2 Thes 2)

Re: Fallen Away Catholics become "Devout" Protestants
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2017, 05:39:37 AM »
The Vatican II church in practice told Catholics that they did not need to belong to the Catholic Church and LIVE a REAL Catholic life to be saved, that anyone that everyone who is "religious" will  be saved.
This is essentially the current crisis summarized in one sentence. According to Vatican II church all sincere people who follow their conscience will go to Heaven, and while being Catholic gives you some extra advantages, it is in no way essential to salvation. It reminds me of a quote from "Catholicism Answer Book" (a heretical Novus Ordo book which Dimond brothers excellently exposed in their material):

"Many good Protestants, Jews, and other non-Catholics can and do get to heaven by living good moral lives and trying to conform to the will of God; they just do not know what they were missing."

This is what Novus Ordo believes. If you are not a Catholic you miss on some special graces, but you can still be saved in any religion. This was explicitly, word-for-word condemned by Pope Gregory XVI in Mirari Vos (1832):

"This perverse opinion is spread on all sides by the fraud of the wicked who claim that it is possible to obtain the eternal salvation of the soul by the profession of any kind of religion, as long as morality is maintained."

Re: Fallen Away Catholics become "Devout" Protestants
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2017, 01:01:25 PM »
"Many good Protestants, Jews, and other non-Catholics can and do get to heaven by living good moral lives and trying to conform to the will of God; they just do not know what they were missing."

This is what Novus Ordo believes. 
There "pope" doesn't even think one needs to live a "good moral life".  One can be a committed abortionist, adulterer, or sodomite...as long as one is nice, is good to the "poor and marginalized" (whatever that means), and is environmentally responsible (and most of this is probably negotiable depending on when he's talking) and one can get to heaven.