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Re: Extended family dress immodestly
« Reply #40 on: Today at 09:04:01 AM »
Dealing with immodest family members is obviously different where children are involved, but assuming the exposure is infrequent I completely agree with Godefrey.

Something that needs to be said: we have to do everything in our power to give our kids consistent, persistent Catholic friends and acquaintances. When your kids grow up around other Catholics (I don't mean when they see other Catholics for 20 minutes a week after Mass, I mean GROW UP around other Catholics) they develop an in-group identity. What is normal to them is what other Catholic kids and grown ups do.  Anything that doesn't fit that mold? Not normal. Weird. Icky. Whatever terms the kids are using. They will naturally see immodesty as something contemptuous if they have peers and other adults reinforcing that standard. I've seen groups of little girls huddle up and mock immodest strangers when they walk by.  The reinforcement kids get from their peers is ridiculously formative.
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The older that kids get, the more important this becomes. God made us social creatures by design, not defect. Kids who grow up with a Catholic home will eventually leave that home. Often they leave the home socially before they do physically. If they don't have an existing Catholic social network to inherit, they will have to develop their own or join an existing social network. And if they haven't grown up in a Catholic social environment, chances are they haven't developed the kind of prejudices they should have (prejudice against worldliness). 
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Re: Extended family dress immodestly
« Reply #41 on: Today at 09:10:27 AM »
Moreover, the Jews send their children to private Jєωιѕн schools, where there are only other Jєωιѕн children.

The reason Jews persevere is also because they read the Old Testament and in the Old Testament there are several examples of great Saints who lived among gentiles and who still persevered in the faith. They follow their examples, but the problem is that they persevere in error rather than in truth.
.There's nothing special about what Jews are doing, Jews are simply doing what pretty much everyone, always, has done: govern their social behavior with strong in-group preferences. It of course helps that Jews haven't been subjected to the same aggressive campaigns of religious and ethnic miscegenation. But go back two hundred years and the same would be true about Dutch Protestants, Swiss Catholics, and so on. If you have a genuine, homogenous community then the people who grow up in that community will have very strong ties to it and be quite loathe to leave it or do anything that would make them unwelcome in it.
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Re: Extended family dress immodestly
« Reply #42 on: Today at 01:34:18 PM »
Dealing with immodest family members is obviously different where children are involved, but assuming the exposure is infrequent I completely agree with Godefrey.

I've seen groups of little girls huddle up and mock immodest strangers when they walk by.  The reinforcement kids get from their peers is ridiculously formative.


If I ever discovered one of my children doing such a thing, she would incur an immediate consequence!  She would apologize and if she truly didn’t know why her behavior wrong, I must rectify that situation at once!  
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I believe it’s a serious failing if a person must rely on upon a peer group to take a stand. Yes, it helps to certain extent, especially when very young, but there is a problem when older. Children are not able to stand on their own as Catholics outside the peer group. Why do so many cradle traditionals leave the faith upon coming of age?  Do they learn how to “be in the world but not of it?”