Author Topic: Exorcism works at home in Indiana (Read 1776 times)

parentsfortruth · « **on:** January 31, 2014, 08:52:53 PM »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2549165/We-lost-lives-Woman-possessed-demons-portal-hell-house-terrified-police-chief-details-familys-terrifying-ordeal.html

Pretty interesting story... kinda freaky, but here's a quote:

Catholic priest Father Michael Maginot carried out exorcisms on Ammons in English and Latin and talks of his personal battles with named demons

The final exorcism was in Latin – praising God and condemning the demon.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 31, 2014, 10:30:25 PM »

Here is an interesting thread, the combat of the Exorcist today-What the
Devil must disclose.

http://eponymousflower.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-conflict-of-exorcist-today-what.html

LoverOfTradition · « **Reply #2 on:** January 31, 2014, 11:11:35 PM »

Frightening story. Poor souls.

We must pray for them. I can't imagine what it must have been like. It terrifies me just reading about what they went through.

StCeciliasGirl · « **Reply #3 on:** February 01, 2014, 01:37:09 AM »

I hate to sound stupid, ...I had thought ALL exorcisms were done in Latin??? When did that change?!

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #4 on:** February 01, 2014, 11:56:21 AM »

http://ologsinquito.hubpages.com/hub/Father-Gabriel-Amorth-the-Vaticans-Chief-Exorcist-Confronts-the-Devil-on-a-Daily-Basis

Father Amorth, an 88-year old Italian priest born in Modena, Italy, is often referred to as the Vatican's "chief exorcist."

However, he is not afraid to candidly speak to the press.

He has been an outspoken critic of the new Rite of Exorcism released in 1999. A number of times, he has gone on record saying these new prayers were ineffective and little more than a "farce," as well as an "incredible obstacle" in fighting the devil and other demons.

Cantarella · « **Reply #5 on:** February 01, 2014, 12:00:03 PM »

Interesting. It is one of my resolutions for the year to start doing all of my daily prayers in Latin.

Marlelar · « **Reply #6 on:** February 01, 2014, 01:08:52 PM »

I can understand why the actual words matter, by why would the language matter?
Someone please educate me.

Marsha

Memento · « **Reply #7 on:** February 01, 2014, 01:36:46 PM »

Fr. Amorth uses the old rite for exorcism when he has permission to do so.
http://www.fisheaters.com/amorth.html.

Please be aware in his first book on exorcism published by Ignatius Press there is a favorable mention of Medjugorje and in his second follow-up book, he speaks often of that apparition.

I wonder if the priest in Gary, Indiana who just recently did the successful exorcism in Latin used the new or the old rite. Do any of you know?

EXCERPT:

Quote

The Secretary of the Congregation for Divine Worship gave a report to the Commission of Cardinals in which he said that those who had contacted him were bishops and not priests and exorcists. And with regard to our own humble attempt to help them by giving our advice as specialists, he added - and I quote verbatim - "One should also take note of the fact that a group of exorcists and "demonologues", who subsequently formed themselves into an international Association, were busy orchestrating a campaign against the rite." An indecent accusation: we have never orchestrated a campaign! The Ritual was intended for us, and yet not one competent person had been called upon by the commissions; so it was only to be expected that we should seek to make our contribution.

30 Days: Does this mean then that, for you, the New Rite is unusable in the struggle against the demon?

Fr. Amorth: Yes. They were looking to give us a blunt weapon. Efficacious prayers, prayers that had been in existence for twelve centuries, were suppressed and replaced by new ineffective prayers. But, as luck would have it, they threw us a lifeline at the last moment.

30 Days: What was that?

Fr. Amorth: The new Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship, Cardinal Jorge Medina, attached to the Ritual a Notification in which he specified that exorcists were not obliged to use this Ritual and that, if they wished, they could ask their bishop for authorization to use the old one. The bishops must in their turn ask for authorization from the Congregation which, as the Cardinal writes, "willingly accords it".

30 Days: "Willingly accords it"? That is a very strange concession...

Fr. Amorth: Do you want to know where it comes from? It comes from an attempt made by Cardinal Ratzinger, the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, and by Cardinal Medina to introduce into the Ritual an article - it was article 38 at that time - which would authorize exorcists to use the previous Ritual. It was undoubtedly a maneuver in extremis to fend off on our behalf the grave errors found in the definitive Ritual. But the two cardinals failed in their attempt. Then Cardinal Medina, who had understood what was at stake in this matter, decided to grant us this lifeline anyway and he added a separate note.

Iuvenalis · « **Reply #8 on:** February 02, 2014, 11:31:59 AM »

I kept wondering when I read this earlier in the week (it was linked from Drudge as were updates): *how* did it happen? And how did it not affect the new tenants at all (new tenants moved into the same house and have said nothing is out of the ordinary).

I cannot help but think the possession and obsession was with the family not the residence, even though that family asserted it all began with moving into that place.

I also wondered, based on reading what Fr. Amorth has said numerous times (that occult practice or at least dabbling is unbelievably common nowadays, and is *the* number one cause of possessions or obsessions), what were the adults in that house dabbling in?

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 02, 2014, 11:42:38 AM »

An epidemic of Demonic Possessions:

http://countdowntozerotime.com/2014/02/01/scarey-as-hell-proof-demons-exist-demon-picture-taken-in-hospital-taken-on-security-camera/

Iuvenalis · « **Reply #10 on:** February 02, 2014, 12:13:23 PM »

The man in shackles at a court hearing appears to just be mentally ill.

The picture on the hospital bed makes little sense, they're not flesh/material, so why would they be caught on a camera? Even if they were, all hospital rooms have cameras and thousands die everyday in hospitals, presumably most of them go to Hell, so why don't we have other pictures in hospitals like this?

Why is just this one caught on camera?

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 02, 2014, 03:45:19 PM »

Quote from: Iuvenalis

The man in shackles at a court hearing appears to just be mentally ill.

The picture on the hospital bed makes little sense, they're not flesh/material, so why would they be caught on a camera? Even if they were, all hospital rooms have cameras and thousands die everyday in hospitals, presumably most of them go to Hell, so why don't we have other pictures in hospitals like this?

Why is just this one caught on camera?

It is only a guess. This was the only one allowed to get people thinking
whom watch this video that devil's and hell exists. Perhaps it may lead
with God's Grace to reform their lives and search for the true religion.

I once worked for a hospital and have been confronted with deaths
that lead me to think about the eternal destination of their souls.
even though I never seen devils even on monitor screens of a
dying person.

Mama ChaCha · « **Reply #12 on:** February 02, 2014, 06:44:54 PM »

Quote from: RomanCatholic1953

Quote from: Iuvenalis
The man in shackles at a court hearing appears to just be mentally ill.

The picture on the hospital bed makes little sense, they're not flesh/material, so why would they be caught on a camera? Even if they were, all hospital rooms have cameras and thousands die everyday in hospitals, presumably most of them go to Hell, so why don't we have other pictures in hospitals like this?

Why is just this one caught on camera?

It is only a guess. This was the only one allowed to get people thinking
whom watch this video that devil's and hell exists. Perhaps it may lead
with God's Grace to reform their lives and search for the true religion.

I once worked for a hospital and have been confronted with deaths
that lead me to think about the eternal destination of their souls.
even though I never seen devils even on monitor screens of a
dying person.

This is true in some cases. Some people go about their merry lives, never giving eternity a second thought, so they need to be captivated to get them woken up.
I can only speak for myself, but I know that I never would've bothered about Catholicism at all, had it not been for trying to untangle all of the bad things that happened to me. Every form of therapy or religion could never realy identify evil and how it operates. The Church could. That was how I knew it was true, because I knew evil very well. The Church knows evil too, but also how to defeat it.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 04, 2014, 01:57:18 AM »

:incense:An Excellent Conference on Exorcism by a veteran Catholic Exorcist.

Very Traditional, and uses the Traditional Rite.

Followed by Questions and Answers.

poche · « **Reply #14 on:** February 04, 2014, 03:09:48 AM »

Quote from: Iuvenalis

I kept wondering when I read this earlier in the week (it was linked from Drudge as were updates): *how* did it happen? And how did it not affect the new tenants at all (new tenants moved into the same house and have said nothing is out of the ordinary).

I cannot help but think the possession and obsession was with the family not the residence, even though that family asserted it all began with moving into that place.

I also wondered, based on reading what Fr. Amorth has said numerous times (that occult practice or at least dabbling is unbelievably common nowadays, and is *the* number one cause of possessions or obsessions), what were the adults in that house dabbling in?

Sometimes these things follow the people and not the places.