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Offline oppositeman

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« on: August 13, 2013, 04:27:31 PM »
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  • Take a Bible account that you like a lot. Learn all you can about it; doing some research to learn all aspects of it. Practice presenting it (but not in front of a mirror because you don’t want to scare yourself) until you get it down and feel comfortable with it. Now that you are ready our Lord will give you the opportunity to put your new found talents to work in His Vineyard.

    So, let’s say you are with someone, a skeptical or unbelieving soul, and you can feel the Holy Spirit encouraging you to evangelize. Now you are prepared to give Jesus your all.

    If you prepare yourself for this, God will certainly use your new ability to the fullest.

    Here is another way to use your new talent. Have a few Christian friends do the same thing. When they are prepared ask some other of your friends – ones who say they believe in God, but you know they are far from being believers in Jesus Christ, to come over one evening because you want to talk with them about their belief in Jesus. Each one of the believers could invite one or two skeptics. Of course you could talk about other things as well. You don’t want people feeling you are “ganging up” on them.

    But when the Holy Spirit encourages one of you to bring up the topic then that’s the time to evangelize. Perhaps only one of the believers will get the opportunity to tell their Biblical account or perhaps all of you. Just remember to trust in Jesus, that regardless of how things seem to be going,  He will make the best of it and you will be doing your Christian duty to spread the Good News to the ends of the earth.


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    « Reply #1 on: August 13, 2013, 07:48:56 PM »
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  • I've been taking a break from posting here, but I feel it's necessary to comment on this topic.

    "Feeling the encouragement of the Holy Spirit" is a profoundly Gnostic protestant exercise. There are no teachings that belong to the Magisterium which teach anyone how to "feel" such encouragement.

    The Christian life is not about being a Catholic who happens to have 'christian' friends to hang around with. The Christian life, which is the Catholic faith lived out each day, is the life of mortification of the flesh and its lusts. Your friends, neighbors and acquaintances seeing the true pursuit of holiness will speak more to their lives and their sinfulness than any memorized sales pitch in front of a mirror.

    The command to teach and baptize among the nations was given to the Apostles, not to every person who thinks they feel spirits.

    The third Person of the Most Holy Trinity is the Holy Ghost, by the way, not the Holy Spirit. A spirit can be an attitude or emotional state as well as a personal being. A ghost, on the other hand, is, in the primary definition, a personage. God the Holy Ghost is most sublimely and perfectly a Person, namely, God, Who is self-existing and thus owes His Personhood to no one.

    Please leave off with the vain and ultimately subjectivist notion of "witnessing". When true penance bears legitimate fruit of holiness and avoidance of sin and of increasing sanctity, you'll have plenty of opportunities to share and legitimate evidence to support your comments, not just propositional arguments like the bible-only heretics.

    Immaculate Heart of Mary, triumph soon!

    Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.
    This evil of heresy spreads itself. The doctrines of godliness are overturned; the rules of the Church are in confusion; the ambition of the unprincipled seizes upon places of authority; and the chief seat [the Papacy] is now openly proposed as a rewar


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    « Reply #2 on: August 13, 2013, 10:13:08 PM »
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  • Quote from: oppositeman
    Take a Bible account that you like a lot. Learn all you can about it; doing some research to learn all aspects of it. Practice presenting it (but not in front of a mirror because you don’t want to scare yourself) until you get it down and feel comfortable with it. Now that you are ready our Lord will give you the opportunity to put your new found talents to work in His Vineyard.

    So, let’s say you are with someone, a skeptical or unbelieving soul, and you can feel the Holy Spirit encouraging you to evangelize. Now you are prepared to give Jesus your all.

    If you prepare yourself for this, God will certainly use your new ability to the fullest.

    Here is another way to use your new talent. Have a few Christian friends do the same thing. When they are prepared ask some other of your friends – ones who say they believe in God, but you know they are far from being believers in Jesus Christ, to come over one evening because you want to talk with them about their belief in Jesus. Each one of the believers could invite one or two skeptics. Of course you could talk about other things as well. You don’t want people feeling you are “ganging up” on them.

    But when the Holy Spirit encourages one of you to bring up the topic then that’s the time to evangelize. Perhaps only one of the believers will get the opportunity to tell their Biblical account or perhaps all of you. Just remember to trust in Jesus, that regardless of how things seem to be going,  He will make the best of it and you will be doing your Christian duty to spread the Good News to the ends of the earth.


    Oppositeman, your post sounds like how pentacostals/charismatics talk (and I should know thats how I grew up)

    Serious question Oppositeman, are you a Roman Catholic?

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    « Reply #3 on: August 13, 2013, 11:17:22 PM »
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  •  :whistleblower:  Do I detect a heretic? :scratchchin:Hmmmmm...  :heretic: Okay, light the match!

    Oppositeman-  Sorry, guy, but I had to down-thumb your idea.  Yes, study the Bible, but leave off the man-made invention known as "witnessing." The Holy Ghost doesn't work like that.  He doesn't come down and bless men's evangelistic techniques.  May I suggest you put the witnessing on hold in order to go study your Bible some more!  Don't do it on your own, or piecemeal.  Follow a Catholic study plan, use an Ignatian Retreat manual, or have a good traditional priest mentor you.  Which of the Apostles or Saints used your technique?  How many converts have YOU made?  How many vocations as a result?  How many have remained faithful for the long term?  
    If Protestants are honest, even they will admit to making few or no true converts by "witnessing."
    Any Catholics out there convert after an encounter of this sort?  Please speak up!

    Homework for Oppositeman:  Find ONE instance in the Bible or from history of someone becoming Catholic by way of your technique.  By Catholic, I mean someone formerly of another religion or no religion, who has lived at least 10 years a Catholic who adheres to the doctrine handed down by the Apostles, the Fathers, Martyrs, Popes, Saints.  

    I'm not trying to be antagonistic or sarcastic.  I'm challenging you on whether or not you, yourself, are on the right path.
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    « Reply #4 on: August 14, 2013, 01:16:56 AM »
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  • 1 Peter 3:15 "But sanctify the Lord Christ in your hearts, being ready always to satisfy every one that asketh you a reason of that hope which is in you." (DR)

    If someone asks, or if there is an opening in a conversation that allows us to present the Catholic position on an issue then it should be taken.  We must know our faith well so we can explain it.  

    Faith is a gift from God and he will inspire those who want to know the truth to seek it out, I don't think we need "witness" to others beyond how we live our daily lives.

    Preach the gospel always, and if necessary use words.  This phrase it attributed to St. Francis.  Even if he did not say it, it is still wise counsel.

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    « Reply #5 on: August 14, 2013, 09:29:00 PM »
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  • Boy o boy - The Apostles would never have left Jerusalem if they would have taken your advice. Perhaps I didn't present this very well but there is nothing wrong with what I said - It's fine if you don't like the idea but your opinion doesn't make it a bad idea.

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    « Reply #6 on: August 15, 2013, 09:29:12 AM »
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    The Apostles would never have left Jerusalem if they would have taken your advice


    The holy Apostles were confirmed by Our Lord Jesus Christ and were filled with the Presence of God the Holy Ghost. They were commanded to instruct the nations in the true Faith. Your Catholic Faith, as well as anyone else's, is a product of the faithfulness of the Apostles and THEIR SUCCESSORS to do that which Our Lord commanded.

    Show me a place in the Holy Scriptures, even one, where an individual who was not an Apostle (i.e. a Bishop), a deacon or a priest was commanded to go out and teach OR where they actually did so fruitfully. Apollos was a layman, and he needed to be instructed in the way of God "more perfectly" because his "witnessing" was obviously not effective.

    The Apostles left Jerusalem under Divine unction. They did not get together and decide upon some clever method of "choosing a passage of Scripture", which they would not have been able to do anyway, since they had but the Old Testament and it was contained in scrolls as large as a small child's body. Not very easy to just grab and sit and read.

    If you want to do things the way the Apostles did them, why not start by being so full of the influence of God the Holy Ghost that your life and actions gather a crowd of convinced unbelievers. Then, when they are all assembled around you, begin to preach, NOT to dialogue, and make unqualified, strident claims about how your listeners are not only lost in their sin, but are personally responsible for the suffering and death of the Son of God, the second Person of the Most Holy Trinity.

    Let's review:

    1. Have a specific command from Our Lord to preach and confirm disciples

    2. Be fully convinced that you intend to bring your listeners, if any, into the One True Church and not just into some protestant "persona relationship" with the protestant false jesus

    3. Preach a message of condemnation of sin and the judgment of all those who are thus guilty before God of not only their sin but of their continual rejection of the Divine Redeemer

    Yes, it sounds like you're an Apostle, all right...

    ...or you're just trying to circuмvent God's established Order, namely, the hierarchy of Holy Church, because you're frustrated at how the protestant heretics seem to make more 'converts' than Catholics do.

    Please, oppositeman and others, bear in mind that protestant rhetorical tactics won't work to make converts to the True Faith. Your job is to point TO the answers, which Holy Church teaches, not to become a Lone Ranger unauthorized 'teacher' yourself.

    Immaculate Heart of Mary, triumph soon!

    Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.
    This evil of heresy spreads itself. The doctrines of godliness are overturned; the rules of the Church are in confusion; the ambition of the unprincipled seizes upon places of authority; and the chief seat [the Papacy] is now openly proposed as a rewar