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Re: Eric Dubay on Jesus Christ
« Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 08:26:13 PM »
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    Re: Eric Dubay on Jesus Christ
    « Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 08:28:34 PM »
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  • Do you mean on CathInfo in general or in this section of CathInfo?

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    Re: Eric Dubay on Jesus Christ
    « Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 08:37:37 PM »
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  • I'm sorry Eric Dubay can't be your hero, or perfect, 100% on the side of truth.

    All this proves is that Dubay is fallible; i.e., he is able to err. That goes for literally everyone, however!

    Are you suggesting that any person able to err should be ignored without even looking into their claims? If so, that would be LITERALLY EVERYONE.
    Do you only post infallible sources? You must not be posting much.

    Dubay only gets "a bunch" of things right:

    Evils of public school
    Inhuman, cruel nature of modern life
    9/11
    Vaccines
    Covid
    Zionism
    History being full of bias/errors ("victors write the history books")
    Globalism
    Lies of NASA
    Geocentrism
    Shape of the Earth
    etc.

    He gets religion 100% wrong unfortunately.

    No, he can't be recommended "without exceptions" like Bp Williamson.

    We seldom get to have personalities on our "team" who are 100%. Life isn't that simple or cut-and-dried.

    I will continue to post Dubay videos that are spot-on in terms of truth.
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    Re: Eric Dubay on Jesus Christ
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    Re: Eric Dubay on Jesus Christ
    « Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 08:53:14 PM »
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  • So, more logcal fallacy from the clown troll OP.

    Just because someone is wrong about one topic, that doesn't make him wrong about all topics, especially when one of the topics deals with natural reason and the other requires the gift of supernatural faith.

    But even within natural reason, someone might be a terrific engineer, but a horrible artist, a brilliant mathematician, but also given to sodomy ... where the integrity of the former's enginerring is not compromise by his lack of artistic talent nor the validity (or lack thereof) of his mathetmatical formulas invalidated by his moral perversion.

    So the turd Mat183 can go jump in a lake with more of his excrement, as he keeps hurling it with the hope that some might stick to the wall.


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    Re: Eric Dubay on Jesus Christ
    « Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 08:56:42 PM »
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  • Are you suggesting that any person able to err should be ignored without even looking into their claims? 

    So, this pernicious troll knows EXACTLY what he's doing, attempting to smear the messenger (on some other topic) with the hopes that he could discredit the message ... which he cannot refute directly.  It's a common tactic of the willfull dishonest.

    We see that even among Traditional Catholics, where, for instance, one might disagree with a Bishop Williamson on, say, Valtorta or Garabandal, while still respecting him as a brilliant man, or disagree with Archbishop Lefebvre one some of this theological positions (at least a times during his life) and still consider him a holy man.

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    Re: Eric Dubay on Jesus Christ
    « Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 09:03:57 PM »
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  • So, what fools Dubay, who lacks faith, and has also caused many to lose their faith, is precisely the stuff he outlines, the similarities to Our Lord's message and even life in other "religions" and even other real historical figures, so that one concludes that it's unlikely these were coincidences, and therefore one must have derived from the other.  They promote this type of crap in various so-called "comparative religions" classes.  I recall at even nominally Catholic universities that there were heavy implications that there was a conflation between Jesus and Mithras, for example, between whom there were numerous striking parallels.

    We who have faith know full well that demons have been active throughout human history prepetrating all manner of mischief.  Knowing the prophecies about the Messiah, the demons often constructed parallel events and distractions.  We saw that even at Lourdes, where multiple copy-cat (diabolical) visionaries came out of the woodwork in an attempt to discredit the genuine apparition.

    Do we really believe that ancient people were just so stupid that they just decided that anything they didn't understand were gods, and they just worshipped these statues for no apparent reason?

    Absolutely not.  We even get hints of it in the Old Testament.  We have missionaries attesting to it.  Demons would inhabit and animate these statues, and work wonder and other apparent miracles, and even reward their devotees with various favors, etc.  These weren't just a bunch of imbeciles grunting and groaning with their clubs and just imaging that these carvings could do anything.  They actually could and certainly DID do many of the things that they attributed to them.  After seeing the wonders that the God of Israel had worked for the Jews after Exodus, did they really think that worshipping a golden calf would do anything for them?  Well, yes ... yes they did.  These idols undoubtedly would grant their wishes, and they were tired of being in the desert and wanted the old flesh pots of Egypt ... and so they rolled out a golden calf in order to elicit a response which, to the extent God permitted, would be forthcoming from a demonic entity.

    So, to the extent that there were copy-cats of Our Lord out there, these were indeed not just coincidence, but the explanation is not what Dubay and others attribute to it.  Instead, these "apes" of the True Messiah were created by demonic entities, attempting to throw chaff out there in order to make it difficult to see the True Religion.


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    Re: Eric Dubay on Jesus Christ
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  • Another point, which was attacked by many apologists (including Answers in Genesis, I believe) is the SUPERFICIAL similarities between Jesus and these false gods. If you look into these other myths AT ALL, anything deeper than watching Zeitgeist, you will be horrified at the omissions, distortions, and basic LIES required to equate or confuse the two.

    Night and day different, most of them are!

    I don't have the dossier in front of me, but I can say: I was blown away by just how dissimilar they were. If you believe the 5 minute superficial-treatment clickbait Youtube videos, you're ready to burn your Catholic card. And then you look into it for more than 5 minutes, and WHOAH! a totally different outcome.
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    Re: Eric Dubay on Jesus Christ
    « Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 09:52:36 PM »
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  • Enjoy --

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    Re: Eric Dubay on Jesus Christ
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  • So the turd Mat183 can go jump in a lake with more of his excrement, as he keeps hurling it with the hope that some might stick to the wall.

    Correction.  Let's be honest.  It's not my excrement at all.  It's the excrement of ERIC DUBAY.  It's his to claim which he appears to take pride in doing.  I can't help it if you got wildly triggered by my bringing it to the light of day on this forum.


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    Re: Eric Dubay on Jesus Christ
    « Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 11:33:43 PM »
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  • So, more logcal fallacy from the clown troll OP.

    Just because someone is wrong about one topic, that doesn't make him wrong about all topics, especially when one of the topics deals with natural reason and the other requires the gift of supernatural faith.

    But even within natural reason, someone might be a terrific engineer, but a horrible artist, a brilliant mathematician, but also given to sodomy ... where the integrity of the former's enginerring is not compromise by his lack of artistic talent nor the validity (or lack thereof) of his mathetmatical formulas invalidated by his moral perversion.

    So the turd Mat183 can go jump in a lake with more of his excrement, as he keeps hurling it with the hope that some might stick to the wall.
    Well, NASA is wrong about some topics and therefore wrong about everything, or so you have made your opinion sound in the past.
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    Re: Eric Dubay on Jesus Christ
    « Reply #12 on: Today at 12:41:40 AM »
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  • Well, NASA is wrong about some topics and therefore wrong about everything, or so you have made your opinion sound in the past.

    No, when someone (or an organization) has lied in the past, they are not trustworthy. That's different.

    All the OP's link proves is that Eric Dubay isn't right about *everything*. a.k.a. he is fallible. I have said that many times in the past.

    The OP didn't "bring this to the light of day". I have mentioned many times in the past that Dubay is painfully wrong about religion. I wasn't kidding.
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    Re: Eric Dubay on Jesus Christ
    « Reply #13 on: Today at 08:25:41 AM »
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  • It's unfortunately the case that New Agers seem to be right on an awful lot of things that many Catholics are wrong about. This was painfully obvious during Covid where New Agers like David Icke were doing the research and informing those who wanted to hear, about what was really going on. 

    During Covid I tried to get together a group of Catholics for a maskless shopping expedition. I ended up going with 4 yoga teachers.

    For similar reasons most books on the healing arts of Hildegard von Bingen are published by new age editors. 

    New agers have totally taken over Glastonbury, one the most sacred places in English Catholic history.

    This podcast touches on much of these topics https://youtu.be/tJ_guPVNlVc?

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    Re: Eric Dubay on Jesus Christ
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  • Yes, we often have to choose between socializing with (or watching the podcast of) a fellow Catholic, or someone we agree with on most natural issues.

    How many Trads are awake and aware of all the evils in the modern world, including the JQ? How many Trad women wear skirts/dresses 24/7? How many reject or mostly reject make-up (which is more ideal) -- and social media (giving their ear to objectively stupid women online)? How many are into being domestic, traditional gender roles, and practicing feminine arts/hobbies? How many Trads reject vaccines? How many believe in alternate treatments for cancer? How many think homeschool is the only way? How many would never send their kids to public school under ANY circuмstances? How many Trads know that "outer space" is a scam, and that the whole NASA package is a load of nonsense? How many Trads prefer hard work/fresh air/space for the kids to play and rural life in general, vs. "the hustle and bustle" of the city?

    I've seen this for a couple decades now -- I have to constantly choose. I find one kind of person who is wise, educated about pretty much everything -- and another smaller group I go to Mass with. It's rather sad, but I'm almost used to it at this point.

    It's a real pattern -- admiring non-Catholics for their habits, lifestyle, or position on various natural, physical-world issues. From history, to culture, to lifestyle, to their opposition to various errors of the Modern World.

    To be fair, SOME of my fellow Trads are awake to some or all of these issues -- most of them find their way to CathInfo (hahaha) -- but it's sad how going to Mass once a week on Sunday doesn't automatically make you "get it" or discover the truth about every issue...

    P.S. This has become "less true" more recently; I'm talking about the Resistance here. Which actually makes sense, as the SSPX tree was "shaken" as it were. Those who are willing to give up everything out of principle to stay faithful to Tradition and their war against Vatican II are more likely to possess the Truth about many things -- because they are obviously pretty strong against human respect. Again it's not everyone in the Resistance that is fully awake & aware on all these topics -- just that they're MORE likely, as the Resistance is the "creme de la creme" of SSPX Trads, as it were.
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