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Re: Enjoy the possibility of a Eucharistic miracle
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2022, 02:52:26 PM »
I can remember way back when this incident was first reported.  I distinctly remember how suppressed the news of it was in the MSM.  I had a tendency at the time and haven't changed since to believe that the event did actually place and that it was of a miraculous nature.


Offline St Giles

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Re: Enjoy the possibility of a Eucharistic miracle
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2022, 03:12:02 PM »
As an side, I am rather disappointed that Bishop Williamson seems to have demonstrated extreme credulity toward dubious private revelation and miracles.  For someone who always denounces modern-day emotionalism to promote Valtorta (something that drips with sap) ... well, this confuses me.  I was at an event one time in Washington, DC for the anniversary of St. Athanasius chapel (Fr. Ringrose), and Bishop Williamson was there.  After a couple of speeches that were filled with emotional sap, Bishop Williamson looked at me (where no one else could se) and made the gesture of sticking his finger in his throat and gagging ... and then started laughing.  That was his response to the hyper-emotionalism on display.  And yet he's easily taken in by some of this stuff.
Can you send him a letter politely cautioning him on believing such things? Do you think he still remembers you?


Re: Enjoy the possibility of a Eucharistic miracle
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2022, 04:01:41 PM »
I can remember way back when this incident was first reported.  I distinctly remember how suppressed the news of it was in the MSM.  I had a tendency at the time and haven't changed since to believe that the event did actually place and that it was of a miraculous nature.


Wow, I find it hard to believe this would be a deception of Satan...

Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: Enjoy the possibility of a Eucharistic miracle
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2022, 04:37:29 PM »
Meh.

1) could be the way the light is shining on that gigantic host -- this reminds me of all those "miraculous photos" from Bayside and Medjugorje.  For all we know, in the festive NO atmosphere, there may be some kind of a strobe light or even disco ball present accounting for the rhythmic light pulsations

2) even if it were not just a light trick, these types of "miracles" are easily simulated by the devil, and even the ones where hosts might bleed of "become flesh" ... it's very simple for the devil to swap out a host

Why would the devil do this?  To persuade people of little faith that the NOM is legitimate and pleasing to God and valid.  And it's having precisely that effect.

Catholics don't do theology based on "miracles" but evaluate the miracles against Catholic theology.  One of the first things the Church examines with regard to private revelations is the orthodoxy of the messages.  If there's even a hint of heterodoxy, the Church refuses to accept them.

Sadly, we have even a lot of Trads using these miracles as evidence for the NOM being valid (even Bishop Williamson has taken them that way).  Even IF the NOM were valid, I don't believe that God would work these miracles if in fact, as we hold, the NOM is Protestantized bastard Mass (with the Catholic Offertory replaced by a тαℓмυdic blessing) that displeases God and harms souls ... because that would encourage people to believe that God approves of the NOM.


This x10^^^^. 

Offline Stubborn

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Re: Enjoy the possibility of a Eucharistic miracle
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2022, 04:42:35 PM »
Wow, I find it hard to believe this would be a deception of Satan...
We must look for what are the fruits, I would think it's necessary or at least prudent, to first ask what fruit has this "miracle" produced? Seems that if the church is [still] NO or has no plans whatsoever to reject the NO and convert to the true faith, then the "miracle" is not from God. Or if not that whole church, then at least the priest and/or some parishioners. Either way, it seems a no brainer that all NO miracles cannot be held authentic, at least not until or unless they produce good fruit - in the case of the NO, that means a conversion to the true faith before anything else.