Meh.

1) could be the way the light is shining on that gigantic host -- this reminds me of all those "miraculous photos" from Bayside and Medjugorje.  For all we know, in the festive NO atmosphere, there may be some kind of a strobe light or even disco ball present accounting for the rhythmic light pulsations

2) even if it were not just a light trick, these types of "miracles" are easily simulated by the devil, and even the ones where hosts might bleed of "become flesh" ... it's very simple for the devil to swap out a host

Why would the devil do this?  To persuade people of little faith that the NOM is legitimate and pleasing to God and valid.  And it's having precisely that effect.

Catholics don't do theology based on "miracles" but evaluate the miracles against Catholic theology.  One of the first things the Church examines with regard to private revelations is the orthodoxy of the messages.  If there's even a hint of heterodoxy, the Church refuses to accept them.

Sadly, we have even a lot of Trads using these miracles as evidence for the NOM being valid (even Bishop Williamson has taken them that way).  Even IF the NOM were valid, I don't believe that God would work these miracles if in fact, as we hold, the NOM is Protestantized bastard Mass (with the Catholic Offertory replaced by a тαℓмυdic blessing) that displeases God and harms souls ... because that would encourage people to believe that God approves of the NOM.

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing

As an side, I am rather disappointed that Bishop Williamson seems to have demonstrated extreme credulity toward dubious private revelation and miracles.  For someone who always denounces modern-day emotionalism to promote Valtorta (something that drips with sap) ... well, this confuses me.  I was at an event one time in Washington, DC for the anniversary of St. Athanasius chapel (Fr. Ringrose), and Bishop Williamson was there.  After a couple of speeches that were filled with emotional sap, Bishop Williamson looked at me (where no one else could se) and made the gesture of sticking his finger in his throat and gagging ... and then started laughing.  That was his response to the hyper-emotionalism on display.  And yet he's easily taken in by some of this stuff.

Can you send him a letter politely cautioning him on believing such things? Do you think he still remembers you?

Meh.

1) could be the way the light is shining on that gigantic host -- this reminds me of all those "miraculous photos" from Bayside and Medjugorje.  For all we know, in the festive NO atmosphere, there may be some kind of a strobe light or even disco ball present accounting for the rhythmic light pulsations

2) even if it were not just a light trick, these types of "miracles" are easily simulated by the devil, and even the ones where hosts might bleed of "become flesh" ... it's very simple for the devil to swap out a host

Why would the devil do this?  To persuade people of little faith that the NOM is legitimate and pleasing to God and valid.  And it's having precisely that effect.

Catholics don't do theology based on "miracles" but evaluate the miracles against Catholic theology.  One of the first things the Church examines with regard to private revelations is the orthodoxy of the messages.  If there's even a hint of heterodoxy, the Church refuses to accept them.

Sadly, we have even a lot of Trads using these miracles as evidence for the NOM being valid (even Bishop Williamson has taken them that way).  Even IF the NOM were valid, I don't believe that God would work these miracles if in fact, as we hold, the NOM is Protestantized bastard Mass (with the Catholic Offertory replaced by a тαℓмυdic blessing) that displeases God and harms souls ... because that would encourage people to believe that God approves of the NOM.

This x10^^^^. 

To be completely honest what sort of bothers me is that to my knowledge, unless someone else knows of something, there aren't any recorded eucharistic miracles from a TLM. Always seems to be NO. 

To be completely honest what sort of bothers me is that to my knowledge, unless someone else knows of something, there aren't any recorded eucharistic miracles from a TLM. Always seems to be NO.

There is one thing, and that's an inherent selection bias. No one I know would whip out a phone at chapels I go to, mid Mass, Adoration or anything. NOM? Apparently lots of people do this.

I am constantly considering the conservative NO position as well (if anyone on here has real temptations to this position on here it is me) but logically there are quite a few problems, and this immediately comes to mind when people bring up EM in NO.

On the other hand I believe that many in the east have considered certain eucharistic miracles to be a bad thing related to lack of faith/ belief in the real presence. I think I read about one alleged miracle where the host which bled was a host that was found on the floor of the church. Seems like it could be Jesus saying "look how you're treating me. With your irreverence, EMHCs, communion in the hand and lack of faith you're trampling me underfoot!

I agree. Those with supernatural Faith do not need miracles to believe: "For I am not come to call the just, but sinners." [Matthew 9:13]

And He doesn't perform miracles for those looking for proof of them in themselves like the unbelieving scoffers these days: "And whereas he had done so many miracles before them, they believed not in him:" [John 12:37]

The famous miracle of Lanciano came about due to a monk who had doubts about the Real Presence. You don't see these doubts among trads because the entire movement revolves around there being a legitimate/licit Mass. Faith is present, despite the other problems plaguing traditionalists, there's no doubt about that. We are so divided and combative because we're in spiritual war; the NO, by and large, are not, but lukewarm (generally-speaking) and would merit miracles to try and strengthen their faith.