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Author Topic: Enjoy the possibility of a Eucharistic miracle  (Read 3599 times)

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Re: Enjoy the possibility of a Eucharistic miracle
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2022, 05:10:06 PM »
To be completely honest what sort of bothers me is that to my knowledge, unless someone else knows of something, there aren't any recorded eucharistic miracles from a TLM. Always seems to be NO. 

Re: Enjoy the possibility of a Eucharistic miracle
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2022, 05:23:52 PM »
 Years ago when I first heard of the Poem of the Man God I started to read it but saw how awful it was & stopped. Bishop Williamson recommended the Poem of the Man God by Valtorta & even suggested that you read it to your children!!!  From then on I've had nothing to do with Bishop Williamson - what he does or says is suspect.  


Re: Enjoy the possibility of a Eucharistic miracle
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2022, 05:26:49 PM »
To be completely honest what sort of bothers me is that to my knowledge, unless someone else knows of something, there aren't any recorded eucharistic miracles from a TLM. Always seems to be NO.
There is one thing, and that's an inherent selection bias. No one I know would whip out a phone at chapels I go to, mid Mass, Adoration or anything. NOM? Apparently lots of people do this.

I am constantly considering the conservative NO position as well (if anyone on here has real temptations to this position on here it is me) but logically there are quite a few problems, and this immediately comes to mind when people bring up EM in NO.

Re: Enjoy the possibility of a Eucharistic miracle
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2022, 06:34:24 PM »
On the other hand I believe that many in the east have considered certain eucharistic miracles to be a bad thing related to lack of faith/ belief in the real presence. I think I read about one alleged miracle where the host which bled was a host that was found on the floor of the church. Seems like it could be Jesus saying "look how you're treating me. With your irreverence, EMHCs, communion in the hand and lack of faith you're trampling me underfoot!

**I just did a little research but for what it's worth many Eastern Orthodox see bleeding hosts or the like as bad omens or at least a sign of the people's lack if belief. 

Re: Enjoy the possibility of a Eucharistic miracle
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2022, 06:41:49 PM »
On the other hand I believe that many in the east have considered certain eucharistic miracles to be a bad thing related to lack of faith/ belief in the real presence. I think I read about one alleged miracle where the host which bled was a host that was found on the floor of the church. Seems like it could be Jesus saying "look how you're treating me. With your irreverence, EMHCs, communion in the hand and lack of faith you're trampling me underfoot!
I agree. Those with supernatural Faith do not need miracles to believe: "For I am not come to call the just, but sinners." [Matthew 9:13]

And He doesn't perform miracles for those looking for proof of them in themselves like the unbelieving scoffers these days: "And whereas he had done so many miracles before them, they believed not in him:" [John 12:37]

The famous miracle of Lanciano came about due to a monk who had doubts about the Real Presence. You don't see these doubts among trads because the entire movement revolves around there being a legitimate/licit Mass. Faith is present, despite the other problems plaguing traditionalists, there's no doubt about that. We are so divided and combative because we're in spiritual war; the NO, by and large, are not, but lukewarm (generally-speaking) and would merit miracles to try and strengthen their faith.