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Title: Dreams
Post by: steelcross on February 25, 2015, 04:34:36 PM
I know that we are not to pay too much attention to dreams. Some are from the devil to tempt us, some are from God, but the most part they are from our own minds. The reason I have become more interested in knowing what exactly are dreams, is because I had too many dreams happen in real life as I dreamt them. I am shown a persons true character, and shown events that have taken place.
Now there are some dreams that make me ponder. Any help here will be most appreciated. The first I'd like to share is this, I dreamt I was back in my old school, and my rosary was broken. I took it to a nun, and she fixed it. Her name was, Sandra and she hahanded to me my rosary with a big smile and told me, "it is your obligation".
Any idea what this could mean? There are two more I had about Our Lady.
Title: Dreams
Post by: steelcross on February 26, 2015, 11:45:55 AM
Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?  :reading:
Title: Dreams
Post by: Nadir on February 26, 2015, 03:32:17 PM

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I know that we are not to pay too much attention to dreams.  


I wonder why you say that? Can you explain, please?

Also what does this mean:

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Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?  :reading:
Title: Dreams
Post by: steelcross on February 26, 2015, 09:18:02 PM
Forgive my humor, the bueller? Was from a movie, it's hard to explain that. As for the dream, I realize that most dreams have no meaning, but there are some that do. I have a high interest in dreams.
Title: Dreams
Post by: Marlelar on February 26, 2015, 09:35:37 PM
My dreams have always been nonsensical so I've never paid any attention to them.  Perhaps you should ask your priest.

Marsha (not Ferris  :laugh2:)
Title: Dreams
Post by: steelcross on February 26, 2015, 09:37:49 PM
Good idea, I will ask my priest.
Title: Dreams
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on February 26, 2015, 09:44:08 PM
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I know that we are not to pay too much attention to dreams. Some are from the devil to tempt us, some are from God, but the most part they are from our own minds. The reason I have become more interested in knowing what exactly are dreams, is because I had too many dreams happen in real life as I dreamt them. I am shown a persons true character, and shown events that have taken place.
Now there are some dreams that make me ponder. Any help here will be most appreciated. The first I'd like to share is this, I dreamt I was back in my old school, and my rosary was broken. I took it to a nun, and she fixed it. Her name was, Sandra and she hahanded to me my rosary with a big smile and told me, "it is your obligation".
Any idea what this could mean? There are two more I had about Our Lady.


What were the other two?  
Title: Dreams
Post by: Nadir on February 27, 2015, 02:12:43 AM
Thank you for answering my questions, steelcross.

When we go to sleep it’s as if we are entering a foreign land where “they” speak a strange language.

If we hear a foreigner speaking a strange tongue, would we say he is talking nonsense? Or what he says has no meaning? No, we would just say, I don’t understand. I don’t know the meaning. So it is with dreams. If you want to understand your dreams you need to know that language. It is the language of symbolism.

Where would we be without dreams? In the first book of the Bible the word dream appears 27 times.
Sometimes dreams are God speaking to us:   And God came to Abimelech in a dream by night, and he said to him: Lo thou shalt die for the woman thou hast taken: for she hath a husband. This seems to be Abimelech's conscience speaking to him as he has probably suppressed it in his waking moments.

Joseph was a dreamer and an interpreter of dreams. See Genesis chapters 37 and 40

What about St. Joseph? How did he find the answer to his dilemma?
Matthew 1 [20] But while he thought on these things, behold the angel of the Lord appeared to him in his sleep, saying: Joseph, son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife, for that which is conceived in her, is of the Holy Ghost.

Of course dreams are not always prophetic. Dreams just happen, for many reasons. St John Bosco started taking notice of his dreams from around the age of nine years old.

If you wanted to get to the meaning of your dream you can ask yourself questions. You know your history in this regard and we don't.

What does the broken rosary mean?
Is this nun a person you know and what does she represent to you?
What does name Sandra mean to you? etc.

God bless you.
 
Title: Dreams
Post by: steelcross on February 27, 2015, 03:40:10 AM
Thank you Nadir. You make a lot of sense. Perhaps the broken rosary may mean I need to pray the rosary correctly? As for the nun Sandra, I don't know what to say, I do not know anyone named Sandra, but she was cheerful.

For the other two dreams, the first one is this:
I was outside my deck, I ran down the stairs, turned to my left up towards the sky, there I saw Our Lady as in the Miraculous Medal. She moved her arm and tossed to me a white towel with two blue stripes at both ends if it. The moment I caught it, the dream was over.

The second is this: in my home, I looked out the window, andOur Lady moved through the house, again as in the Miraculous Mmedal, picked me up heading towards the sky. I heard a voice, cannot remember if it was male or female voice, but said, "God is going to introduce you to a girl." The dream ended there, did not say what girl or for what purpose?
Title: Dreams
Post by: Nadir on February 27, 2015, 05:04:40 AM
I didn't look for this. It just popped up:

St Andrew Corsini (feastday 4 February) Born one of the twelve children in 1301, St Andrew’s mother had a dream before he was born that she had given birth to a wolf which became a lamb upon entering a Carmelite church. After a wild youth, Andrew repented when his mother told him her dream. He prayed to the Blessed Virgin with tears, then went to beg his admission to the Carmelite Order. He became a priest, and the Apostle of Florence.

We can easily see the symbolism here. What does a wolf symbolise? What does a lamb symbolise?

I had not seen your reply, steelcross, when I decided to post this.

They are very beautiful dreams. No stranger can interpret your dreams. It is up to you to find the meaning through prayer and study. Maybe there is a good traditional priest you can talk with. Somebody might help you to understand the symbolism but only you know how it applies in your life.

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I do not know anyone named Sandra, but she was cheerful.
And yet Sandra was the name of the nun who fixed your beads and smiled at you. So if don't don't know the person and you don't know anyone called Sandra, you need to ask the meaning of the word Sandra. It is obviously important or you wouldn't remember it. I just did a search and found that it is both Hebrew and Greek, the feminine form of Alexander and it means "helper".  

Why the Miraculous Medal and not the Carmelite Scapular?  Why a towel? why white and blue? You didn't drop it; you caught it. Just keep asking those questions. Apart from that, I would repeat, it is not for anyone else to interpret your dreams. You must just pray about it. Our Lady features strongly here and she will help you.
Title: Dreams
Post by: steelcross on February 27, 2015, 08:47:46 AM
Thank you Nadir, you may be correct, I must find the answer myself. I just hoped there would be someone who could interpret dreams. I will ask my priest. Thank you again.
God bless. :)
Title: Dreams
Post by: steelcross on February 27, 2015, 08:52:29 AM
Yes Our Lady has never failed to help me when I needed helpthe most. I wish nnon-catholics could be more open to her.
Title: Dreams
Post by: Ascetik on February 27, 2015, 10:33:35 AM
I had an extremely vivid dream once when I had been living in sin for awhile.

I "woke up" from sleep in the dream in my bed and there was no ceiling in my dream, just the sky full of innumerable stars... then the starts began to form the Trinity, Father, Son and Holy Ghost, made out of all those starts, looking directly at me and into my soul. I knew all my sins that offended God immediately when He looked at me. They then morphed in the Person of Jesus Christ holding two swords. Jesus Christ with two swords stared directly at me in his universal glory, shimmering with starlight, and said not audibly, but I could hear it "Take up your sword." I woke up totally shocked and mystified. I rarely have dreams like that, extremely rarely, maybe the 3rd in my entire life relating to something heavenly and never has God Himself appeared in my dream, usually just a saint.

I'm pretty sure I went to confession the next day.

I also had never heard of the two sword in scripture until I looked it up. There is a place in one of the gospels where Christ speaks about two swords, up until that time, I had not remembered ever reading that passage in scripture.
Title: Dreams
Post by: Matto on February 27, 2015, 12:37:56 PM
I once had a dream in which I made bread and in the bread there was the real presence of Saint John Vianney as Christ is normally present in the Eucharist, and I gave the bread to my friends.
Title: Dreams
Post by: MiserereMeiDeus on February 27, 2015, 01:25:02 PM
I don't think it's a good idea to spend too much time pondering the meaning of dreams. There is an entire branch of the occult that deals with dreams that regards them as a sort of fortune-telling. If a dream image -- like a broken Rosary or a sword-weilding Jesus -- jars you into examining yourself, clearly that's a good thing. But I think it's not a good idea to spend a lot of time trying to puzzle out hidden meanings. If you're a pharoah and God sends you prophetic dreams and a patriarch to interpret them for you, the fate of nations hanging in the balance, that's one thing, but I don't think it's the sort of thing most of us are likely to encounter.
Title: Dreams
Post by: Tridentine MT on June 19, 2015, 02:56:33 AM
Recently I had two particular dreams:

a) the first one was quite weird (had to do with illnesses, etc.) but I vividly remember that it ended with the words: "The Tau will explain everything"

b) the second one was much clearer - I daily visit a church dedicated to St. Francis of Assisi. I dreamt that although the convent door (from where I usually enter) was open, both the Crucifix and the statue of St. Francis (they are in different niches) were concealed by wooden beams, there was darkness in the hall and no one in sight.

I am baffled by all this.
Title: Dreams
Post by: Dolores on June 19, 2015, 05:51:33 AM
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Title: Dreams
Post by: Dolores on June 19, 2015, 05:53:56 AM
Baltimore Catechism (1941):

212. When does a person sin by superstition?

A person sins by superstition when he attributes to a creature a power that belongs to God alone, as when he makes use of charms or spells, believes in dreams or fortune-telling, or goes to spiritists.


Summa Theologica, Secunda Secundæ Partis, Question 95. Superstition in divinations:

Article 6. Whether divination by dreams is unlawful?

Objection 1. It would seem that divination by dreams is not unlawful. It is not unlawful to make use of divine instruction. Now men are instructed by God in dreams, for it is written (Job 33:15-16): "By a dream in a vision by night, when deep sleep falleth upon men, and they are sleeping in their beds, then He," God to wit, "openeth the ears of men, and teaching instructeth them in what they are to learn." Therefore it is not unlawful to make use of divination by dreams.

Objection 2. Further, those who interpret dreams, properly speaking, make use of divination by dreams. Now we read of holy men interpreting dreams: thus Joseph interpreted the dreams of Pharaoh's butler and of his chief baker (Genesis 40), and Daniel interpreted the dream of the king of Babylon (Daniel 2 and 4). Therefore divination by dreams is not unlawful.

Objection 3. Further, it is unreasonable to deny the common experiences of men. Now it is the experience of all that dreams are significative of the future. Therefore it is useless to deny the efficacy of dreams for the purpose of divination, and it is lawful to listen to them.

On the contrary, It is written (Deuteronomy 18:10): "Neither let there be found among you any one that . . . observeth dreams."

I answer that, As stated above (A2,6), divination is superstitious and unlawful when it is based on a false opinion. Wherefore we must consider what is true in the matter of foreknowing the future from dreams. Now dreams are sometimes the cause of future occurrences; for instance, when a person's mind becomes anxious through what it has seen in a dream and is thereby led to do something or avoid something: while sometimes dreams are signs of future happenings, in so far as they are referable to some common cause of both dreams and future occurrences, and in this way the future is frequently known from dreams. We must, then, consider what is the cause of dreams, and whether it can be the cause of future occurrences, or be cognizant of them.

Accordingly it is to be observed that the cause of dreams is sometimes in us and sometimes outside us. The inward cause of dreams is twofold: one regards the soul, in so far as those things which have occupied a man's thoughts and affections while awake recur to his imagination while asleep. A such like cause of dreams is not a cause of future occurrences, so that dreams of this kind are related accidentally to future occurrences, and if at any time they concur it will be by chance. But sometimes the inward cause of dreams regards the body: because the inward disposition of the body leads to the formation of a movement in the imagination consistent with that disposition; thus a man in whom there is abundance of cold humors dreams that he is in the water or snow: and for this reason physicians say that we should take note of dreams in order to discover internal dispositions.

In like manner the outward cause of dreams is twofold, corporal and spiritual. It is corporal in so far as the sleeper's imagination is affected either by the surrounding air, or through an impression of a heavenly body, so that certain images appear to the sleeper, in keeping with the disposition of the heavenly bodies. The spiritual cause is sometimes referable to God, Who reveals certain things to men in their dreams by the ministry of the angels, according Numbers 12:6, "If there be among you a prophet of the Lord, I will appear to him in a vision, or I will speak to him in a dream." Sometimes, however, it is due to the action of the demons that certain images appear to persons in their sleep, and by this means they, at times, reveal certain future things to those who have entered into an unlawful compact with them.

Accordingly we must say that there is no unlawful divination in making use of dreams for the foreknowledge of the future, so long as those dreams are due to divine revelation, or to some natural cause inward or outward, and so far as the efficacy of that cause extends. But it will be an unlawful and superstitious divination if it be caused by a revelation of the demons, with whom a compact has been made, whether explicit, through their being invoked for the purpose, or implicit, through the divination extending beyond its possible limits.

This suffices for the Replies to the Objections.
Title: Dreams
Post by: Maria Auxiliadora on June 19, 2015, 12:14:15 PM
I dream often. Usually a salad with all the ingredients of the day but IMO some dreams can be a warning.  

The night my brother died (married 6 months), I dreamed about his young wife crying inconsolably, I felt her pain and kept asking: "What's wrong?" but she never answered as she could not stop the crying.

The night my favorite cousin died, I dreamed he was (very sweetly) smiling at me through the outside of my bedroom glass window.

I had two dreams of a priest I held in the highest regard for years:

1). I was in the front yard of a three story building I didn't recognize. It looked as if night time was coming but there was light up to around the top of my head all the way across.  Above that, it was increasingly darker. By the third floor, it was so dark you could not see anything! Yet, I saw the priest in the balcony of the 3rd floor all the way to the left and I said to myself: "Father looks so (spiritually) beautiful!"  At that moment, I thought I heard someone call me so I started to walk towards the right side of the large building. Around the corner, I saw a door opened with a glass storm door and behind it, was Our Resurrected Lord in all His splendor with His arms opened. I woke up as I was running to Him.

2). I came into church for Mass and the priest was waiting for me leaning against the wall and facing me as I came in. He extended his right arm for me to kiss his hand. Because of his (somewhat arrogant) attitude, I was afraid to do it. I moved slowly towards him wondering what to do. As I lowered my face closer to his hand, I saw his hand turn into a monstrous thing.

I dismissed both dreams and put them in the crazy category but I learned the hard way that this "holy" priest, the whole time we (my family) were defending his "good" name, he was destroying ours for his own aggrandizement.
Title: Re: Dreams
Post by: josefamenendez on May 20, 2017, 10:29:28 AM
I know this is an old thread- But I wanted to post this unusual dream. At first I thought "how weird" but it really isn't that cryptic and pretty straight forward.
Somehow I was at the home of a couple that I do not know in real life. The wife looked like an old co-worker of mine ( but it wasn't her) and the husband looked like a biker dude , 40's or 50's with long blonde hair and a long beard, kind of Viking looking. 
Somehow I was there for Christmas and was decorating the tree. I had very traditionally religious Catholic decorations of Our Lord and Our Lady on the tree and the husband was a little disturbed and wanted me to "tone-down" the decorations- like maybe putting "motorcycles for Christ" type decorations on the tree. For some reason I was very adamant about leaving my decorations on, and I told him "you'd better leave my decorations up"- kind of strong of me considering this wasn't my house. As a byline, this man owned lions, some friendly and some not so friendly, and when a stranger like me was in the home. the friendly lions were able to walk around. In the dream I was nervous about the nice lions.
I left the house for some reason I can't remember, and when I came back, the husband was gone, but he had thrown away the entire tree with my decorations, along with all of my belongings.There were two skinny, smaller, fake trees in it's place. The wife was there with a couple of new lions, behind windows and a door but the windows were open and we could easily communicate. She said I could go get the tree ornaments out of the trash if I wanted, but I said that her husband would be the last person to touch the defiled ornaments of Our Lord and Lady- not me. Then one of the not-so friendly lions tried to push through the door, and somehow got through. The lion put "her" mouth around my lower arm firmly, and then I woke up. 
There were no male lions with manes- only female lions.
Title: My repeat dreams come true.
Post by: White Wolf on May 22, 2017, 10:17:11 AM
Years ago, I dreamt twice I would see a snake.  I saw one that day.  A few months later, I dreamt twice I would botch a recording of a show and miss some of it, and despite being very careful, that is what happened because the recorder did not click off at the end of the tape.

There can often be something to dreams, but I would not lose sleep over it. :P

But you should be saying the Rosary.  And learn more about Fatima.  If Sandra is spreading devotion to Mary, then God bless her, nun or not.