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Double standard for women in the office
« on: July 18, 2018, 01:59:40 PM »
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  • Regardless of the office dress code, women always show off more flesh -- below the neck, chest area, legs, knees/thighs, bare feet, etc. -- than any man would ever do (except maybe at the beach).

    Even at the upper end of business casual, when men have to wear long sleeve button-down shirts -- women dress like in this picture. A mid-thigh skirt and a sleeveless blouse, and open-toe sandals that remind me of flip-flops!

    Could you imagine a man dressing that way in a business setting? But men are in the office for business, to work, to get things done -- not to show themselves off like a piece of meat.

    I'd say "not there to look pretty", but then I'd be talking about all the baubles, colors, etc. that women wear. Those things aren't necessarily immodest. But I'm focusing completely on the IMMODESTY issue.
    How some women are hypocrites when they get all upset when men treat them like a piece of meat -- when they dress like one.

    See the picture below? The men aren't showing *any* of their body except for their face and hands. The women, on the other hand, are showing all kinds of stuff.

    Women who don't dress like men shouldn't expect to be taken *as seriously* as a man in the business world, or paid the same. It's that simple.

    I've said this before, but at least the women who wear pantsuits are consistent. They want to earn the same as men, they are as serious about work and career as any man -- and they dress basically like men. Long grey (or other neutral color) slacks, a long sleeve shirt, and jacket. I would say they are disordered and all, but at least they have a leg to stand on when they demand equal pay, etc. Their choice of clothing projects that they are serious about work.

    Women who show off ANY flesh at the office, more than an equivalent man, deserve to be taken less seriously. Getting paid 80%, 60%, or 50% as much as a man doing the same job is all fair game. After all, the woman must be there for other forms of compensation (landing a man -- for short or long term) anyhow, based on her dress.

    If I came in to office dressed like any of the men, only my clothes were dirty or wrinkled, should I be taken as seriously as my peers? Of course not. What if I had sleeves missing, or came in dressed in shorts or bare foot sandals? Even worse. So the same should go for women. It's only fair. They want to be treated equally with men, right?
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    Re: Double standard for women in the office
    « Reply #1 on: July 18, 2018, 02:30:05 PM »
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  • Seriously, think about it. Say you're an executive at a large company. You visit with 2 salespeople about purchasing a 1.5 million dollar piece of equipment. One is a man in typical business attire, and the other is a women in a mid-thigh skirt, sleeveless blouse, and you can see her "piggies" (toes) because she is wearing some kind of sandals.

    Which of them seems more like an expert? Who seems more serious about their job? Who inspires confidence and trust? Who is likely to get your business?

    And you wonder why women make less than men in the business world...

    (Of course, some men would go with the female salesperson if she were attractive -- but it would only be because he saw her as a piece of meat, which he could potentially "use"...)
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    Re: Double standard for women in the office
    « Reply #2 on: July 18, 2018, 02:33:01 PM »
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  • In other news, did you hear that the male/female wage gap exists, even in the world of "gig" jobs and jobs where you are the boss, such as Uber?

    It's true! Men make more than women even at Uber, where you'd think there's no possible chance for the "big bad patriarchy" to do its thing.

    However, it turns out that men are more aggressive, drive faster, are more bold in seeking clients, etc. and so they end up making more.

    See? Nature wins again. Men are not women. Women are not men. They are very, very different. God made them that way "male and female He created them."
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    Re: Double standard for women in the office
    « Reply #3 on: July 18, 2018, 05:00:20 PM »
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    Re: Double standard for women in the office
    « Reply #4 on: July 18, 2018, 05:13:20 PM »
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    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    Re: Double standard for women in the office
    « Reply #5 on: July 18, 2018, 07:30:51 PM »
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  • I'm not best dressed some times.

    HoweverThe women who appear on Fox News look like they are hookers from the 80's.  They dress like they are going to a nightclub after their gig.  Most of the men are in suits. 
    i don't understand why women take their little girls to see half naked mentally disturbed Disney pop tarts. 

    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: Double standard for women in the office
    « Reply #6 on: July 18, 2018, 08:11:11 PM »
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  • I've noticed the same thing as Matthew.  My parents watch a local news show on TV, and while the male reporter is always professionally attired in a suit and tie, his female counterpart wears sleeveless, cleavage-revealing, skin-tight, spandex dresses in a single neon color.  It is not only immodest, but not remotely attractive, even from a worldly perspective.  She colors don't look well on a person of her skintone.  Every bump and line shows.  Her long hair is often unkempt, purposefully it seems.  She does not look professional.  There is no reason I can see for this except for the programmers wanting her to look as she does.   

    I work in a profession in which a blouse, skirt with jacket, or dress with a jacket is the required attire.  Men are to wear suits as well.  If I showed up looking like these bimbo lady reporters, I'd be sent home jobless.  Imagine the typical male/female newscaster team in a medical setting.  If the man came out and introduced himself as Dr. Smith, people would have trust in him and accept him as being a doctor.  If the woman came out and introduced herself as Dr. Smith, would she be received with trust and confidence?  No, because her clothing gives the message that she is ready to go clubbing, not to practice medicine!

    I've noticed the same thing in other settings, banks, law offices, accounting firms, schools, auto sales, etc.  Brainless women are dressing like sex objects and then wonder why men are rude and nobody takes them seriously.  The newscasters are probably told what to wear, but what about the others?  Whatever happened to "Dress for Success," so trendy in the 80s and 90s?  

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    Re: Double standard for women in the office
    « Reply #7 on: July 18, 2018, 10:44:57 PM »
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  • In sum, one cannot longer distinguish a common streetwalker from an average woman nowadays.

    And it's summer time, so things will get worse.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.


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    Re: Double standard for women in the office
    « Reply #8 on: July 18, 2018, 11:57:14 PM »
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  • Good out of evil!  I sometimes find it consoling to find how much grace we men can gain from avoiding impure glances and on and on.  All those opportunities to gain grace in this way did not always exist -- at lease certainly not to the degree that they exist in modern times.  Temptations, of course, can either bring us down or help to raise us higher.  Just wanted to add that positive thinking perspective! 

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    Re: Double standard for women in the office
    « Reply #9 on: July 19, 2018, 12:29:44 AM »
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  • .
    Her long hair is often unkempt, purposefully it seems.  She does not look professional.  
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    There is no reason I can see for this except for the programmers wanting her to look as she does.  

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    I went to a live feed location where a woman reporter was getting ready to go on the air, and the makeup crew were giving her the last minute touch-up. The last thing the hairdresser did before the reporter walked over to the camera was, she stuck her fingers into the reporter's hair and shuffled it sideways to give it a more wind-blown look or, as you say, "unkempt." So it was deliberate. At the time, I thought to myself, "I wonder why they want her to look like she just crawled out of a sack?"
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    I know a makeup artist who worked in movies/media, and she assures me that the LOOK that they are bound to achieve by contract, is precisely the LOOK that the director or producer demands and specifies. They have to produce the appearance that is required each and every time, and the specifics can be different in some respects or the same in other respects, from day to day. So it's not an accident. These things are conceived, ordered, and delivered.
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    Re: Double standard for women in the office
    « Reply #10 on: July 19, 2018, 01:01:16 AM »
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    You know, there comes a time in a woman's life when having the air chilled really helps to offset those hot flashes.
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    Younger women might be a little prejudiced against co-workers of their own sex, based on AGE!
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    That would be age discrimination!

    That's right, I said their own sex not their own "gender" because
    gender is a grammatical case, while sex is a physical description.
    Gender describes words: his/hers/its, he/she/it, masculine/feminine'neuter.
    Sex describes people: male/female, man/woman, boy/girl.
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    Re: Double standard for women in the office
    « Reply #11 on: July 19, 2018, 02:36:41 AM »
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    I went to a live feed location where a woman reporter was getting ready to go on the air, and the makeup crew were giving her the last minute touch-up. The last thing the hairdresser did before the reporter walked over to the camera was, she stuck her fingers into the reporter's hair and shuffled it sideways to give it a more wind-blown look or, as you say, "unkempt." So it was deliberate. At the time, I thought to myself, "I wonder why they want her to look like she just crawled out of a sack?"
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    I know a makeup artist who worked in movies/media, and she assures me that the LOOK that they are bound to achieve by contract, is precisely the LOOK that the director or producer demands and specifies. They have to produce the appearance that is required each and every time, and the specifics can be different in some respects or the same in other respects, from day to day. So it's not an accident. These things are conceived, ordered, and delivered.
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    So they want her to look as if she's just tumbled out of a bed where she's committed adultery or some other promiscuous activity?  Why not?  This is what women are supposed to aspire to these days.  

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    Re: Double standard for women in the office
    « Reply #12 on: July 19, 2018, 05:32:14 AM »
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  • Women aren't even paid less anyway. The "70% of a man's pay" statistic does not account for women generally working different jobs to men. If you compare women and men working the same positions in the same jobs, they are actually paid the same. Despite usually being far worse at it: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-30/bilnd-recruitment-trial-to-improve-gender-equality-failing-study/8664888

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    Re: Double standard for women in the office
    « Reply #13 on: July 19, 2018, 11:44:12 AM »
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  • That's right, I said their own sex not their own "gender" because
    gender is a grammatical case, while sex is a physical description.
    Gender describes words: his/hers/its, he/she/it, masculine/feminine'neuter.
    Sex describes people: male/female, man/woman, boy/girl.
    This deserves a thread of its own.  Using the word "gender" to mean sex is part of the diabolical disorientation of our times.  It is language to support the lie that male and female are arbitrary social constructs (like grammatical gender) rather than objective physical reality.  

    All Catholics ought to train ourselves not to use "gender" in this way.  We could come up with an entire list of words like this, introduced for social manipulation.  Other examples are "antisemitism" and "gαy."  We should avoid all such words.