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Offline Geremia

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Does your employer force you to work on Holy Days of Obligation?
« on: August 15, 2019, 11:33:03 PM »
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    • Do most trads work on holy days of obligation?
     
    It seems the majority of trads work on holy days of obligation, as the Mass attendance at the evening Mass today was greater than that of the morning Masses today (feast of the Assumption).
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    Offline Seraphina

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    Re: Does your employer force you to work on Holy Days of Obligation?
    « Reply #1 on: August 16, 2019, 12:25:13 AM »
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    • Yes.  No allowance is made unless I apply six weeks in advance for a personal day, which they deduct from the five sick days.  It cannot be a Monday, Friday, or the day before or after a vacation.  If you’ve used up sick days, then no personal days are granted. I work 10 hours so I can’t get to Mass even if in the evening. 
    I’m visiting a friend in the southeastern US, so I got to hear Mass today, first time in a long while!  The public schools all had their first day of classes today in this state.  There are severe penalties for students not showing up unless they are medically excused by a doctor; a parent note is not accepted.  Naturally, Catholic teachers are not permitted to take the day off.  I think it’s done on purpose.  

     
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    Re: Does your employer force you to work on Holy Days of Obligation?
    « Reply #2 on: August 16, 2019, 01:07:58 AM »
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    • Wow.  Many schools  get out late in June and start in August.   Then there are those summer school “programs” or headstart.  Anything to lengthen the liberal brainwashing of children.  In the past teachers, children, mothers would be off because school would start until After Labor Day in September.  Just another communist tactic.   

    Many Catholics won’t celebrate the Feast of the Assumption but are getting ready for Yom Kippur and Ramadan. 







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    Re: Does your employer force you to work on Holy Days of Obligation?
    « Reply #3 on: August 16, 2019, 01:21:48 AM »
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    • I checked my phone and it doesn’t mention yesterday but it does recognize moslem and Jєωιѕн holidays.  
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    Re: Does your employer force you to work on Holy Days of Obligation?
    « Reply #4 on: August 16, 2019, 05:36:54 AM »
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    • I could've taken a vacation day but I preferred to go to the evening high Mass. 
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    Re: Does your employer force you to work on Holy Days of Obligation?
    « Reply #5 on: August 16, 2019, 02:00:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on August 16, 2019, 12:25:13 AM
    Catholic teachers are not permitted to take the day off.
    Who says?
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    Re: Does your employer force you to work on Holy Days of Obligation?
    « Reply #6 on: August 16, 2019, 02:07:29 PM »
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    • My employer does not force us to work on Holy Days or other days (we are required to work M-F at normal business hours, except for Federal and State Holidays), but if we want any other day off, we must use vacation leave, which I do for all Holy Days. I remember Fr. Alphonsus told us we should always try (make the effort) to get off work on the Holy Day. 
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    Re: Does your employer force you to work on Holy Days of Obligation?
    « Reply #7 on: August 16, 2019, 09:06:44 PM »
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    • Is it the same with Jєωιѕн or moslem people?  
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    Re: Does your employer force you to work on Holy Days of Obligation?
    « Reply #8 on: August 16, 2019, 09:39:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mr G on August 16, 2019, 02:07:29 PM
    Fr. Alphonsus told us we should always try (make the effort) to get off work on the Holy Day.
    Yes, the employer certainly is more culpable for making employees work on Holy Days than employees are.
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    Re: Does your employer force you to work on Holy Days of Obligation?
    « Reply #9 on: August 17, 2019, 12:37:45 AM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on August 16, 2019, 12:25:13 AM
    Yes.  No allowance is made unless I apply six weeks in advance for a personal day, which they deduct from the five sick days.  It cannot be a Monday, Friday, or the day before or after a vacation.  If you’ve used up sick days, then no personal days are granted. I work 10 hours so I can’t get to Mass even if in the evening.
    I’m visiting a friend in the southeastern US, so I got to hear Mass today, first time in a long while!  The public schools all had their first day of classes today in this state.  There are severe penalties for students not showing up unless they are medically excused by a doctor; a parent note is not accepted.  Naturally, Catholic teachers are not permitted to take the day off.  I think it’s done on purpose.  

     
    Actually making a religious observance is an excusable absence according to the rules of the public schools where I live. However, I have heard from some of the children that this is not always respected.
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    Re: Does your employer force you to work on Holy Days of Obligation?
    « Reply #10 on: August 17, 2019, 02:01:01 AM »
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    • Quote from: Geremia on August 16, 2019, 02:00:03 PM
    Who says?
    State run school policy.  A teacher cannot take off the first day of school, doesn’t matter what the personal reason. They’d have to lie about being sick or som other emergency.
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    Re: Does your employer force you to work on Holy Days of Obligation?
    « Reply #11 on: August 17, 2019, 03:13:04 AM »
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    • Beware public schools that are run by Mormons. I knew a man who was a public school teacher. The Mormons in his town controlled the public schools and would not let him a religious day off for Good Friday. They had a "Spring Break" that was divorced from when Catholics celebrated Good Friday. Their spring break usually occurred the week following Easter, but not always.  Sometimes Spring Break would occur two weeks before Easter or two weeks after. They would accommodate Jєωs and Muslims, but not Catholics or Orthodox Christians.
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    Re: Does your employer force you to work on Holy Days of Obligation?
    « Reply #12 on: August 27, 2019, 05:18:53 PM »
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    • For most of my working life I owned my own business.  I allowed people to take four personal days over and above the vacation they earned.  I started my employees with three weeks vacation a week of sick leave, and federal holidays.  People were free to take personal or vacation days for religious observances.  Since these observances are predictable, I asked for two weeks notice, the same as I expected for any planned days off.  I closed the business on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day as well as New Year's day, which covered two Catholic holy days.  We were also closed on Good Friday. 
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    Re: Does your employer force you to work on Holy Days of Obligation?
    « Reply #13 on: August 27, 2019, 05:35:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Geremia on August 15, 2019, 11:33:03 PM
    Do most trads work on holy days of obligation?
     
    It seems the majority of trads work on holy days of obligation, as the Mass attendance at the evening Mass today was greater than that of the morning Masses today (feast of the Assumption).

    Unfortunately, this is the downside of living in a non-Catholic country. 

    For many Catholic countries (or at least countries where the majority are Catholics), Holydays of Obligation are generally akin to Federal Holidays. 
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    Re: Does your employer force you to work on Holy Days of Obligation?
    « Reply #14 on: August 27, 2019, 05:43:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: Bonaventure on August 27, 2019, 05:35:44 PM
    Unfortunately, this is the downside of living in a non-Catholic country.  

    For many Catholic countries (or at least countries where the majority are Catholics), Holydays of Obligation are generally akin to Federal Holidays.
    Although many countries have changing/are changing their federal holiday list to be "less religious". 
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