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Re: Does the wedding dress need to be all white?
« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2023, 11:24:00 PM »
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    • Quote from: TheRealMcCoy on January 26, 2023, 06:56:33 AM
    Shame on anyone speculating on the chastity of a bride simply based on her wedding gown color. 
    :facepalm: Honestly in the world we're living in nowadays I've heard that not even the priests expect the couples come in for marriage counsel would be virgins
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    Re: Does the wedding dress need to be all white?
    « Reply #31 on: January 26, 2023, 11:28:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: AMDGJMJ on January 26, 2023, 12:17:57 PM
    I think if someone wore a colorful ethnic asian or German wedding dress because they were from that country or something like that people would probably be more understanding.  It is the generic Western wedding dress but of a non-white color I think that causes the most concern?  I could be wrong though.  🤷
    I'd rather not wear red to confuse people with liturgical colours, but I think gold/ivory/champagne/silver colour would be fine for celebration in any context :smirk:
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    Re: Does the wedding dress need to be all white?
    « Reply #32 on: January 26, 2023, 11:32:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: ElwinRansom1970 on January 26, 2023, 08:17:26 AM
    Living in an area with population largely first, second, and third generation Eastern and Central European, I would find favourable the brides, grooms, and attendents be attired in their native ethnic costumes for Catholic weddings.
    Would you like to show us some examples?
    Also I came across video of this wedding (N.O. ofc and I apologise if it's you on the pics and do not want me to post this) and I was really facinated by the groom's ethnic costumes. I wonder if there's anything like that in other parts of Europe, especially the British, Welsh or Irish since there are so many of them in the are.

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    Re: Does the wedding dress need to be all white?
    « Reply #33 on: January 27, 2023, 12:12:02 AM »
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    Re: Does the wedding dress need to be all white?
    « Reply #34 on: January 27, 2023, 06:02:26 AM »
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    • Quote from: Philothea3 on January 26, 2023, 11:28:40 PM
    I'd rather not wear red to confuse people with liturgical colours, but I think gold/ivory/champagne/silver colour would be fine for celebration in any context :smirk:
    Makes sense.  😅

    Oh, and I will add...  Some fiances/ future husbands might care more about your dress than you might think.  So, maybe at least don't get one until you are engaged.   😜
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    Re: Does the wedding dress need to be all white?
    « Reply #35 on: January 27, 2023, 11:40:43 AM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on January 27, 2023, 12:12:02 AM

    http://folkcostume.blogspot.com/2014/04/short-overview-of-traditional-bridal.html
    This is so nice! But I got another question now: is the headcovering necessary if one goes by ethnic clothings? Because as I see in those some of them have more of a crown that doesn't cover any hair
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    Re: Does the wedding dress need to be all white?
    « Reply #36 on: January 27, 2023, 11:41:20 AM »
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    • Quote from: AMDGJMJ on January 27, 2023, 06:02:26 AM
    Makes sense.  😅

    Oh, and I will add...  Some fiances/ future husbands might care more about your dress than you might think.  So, maybe at least don't get one until you are engaged.  😜
    Don't worry, if I ever get a fiance, I'll make sure he buys me one:laugh2:

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    Re: Does the wedding dress need to be all white?
    « Reply #37 on: January 27, 2023, 12:19:39 PM »
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    • And also what about the bride's maids? Traditionally they would also just wear Sunday best?
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    Re: Does the wedding dress need to be all white?
    « Reply #38 on: January 27, 2023, 02:06:57 PM »
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    • By our standards, if anyone had the right to wear white on their wedding day, it was the Blessed Virgin.

    In the writings of Anne Catherine Emmerich, Our Lady's wedding dress is described thus:

    "the beautiful sky-,blue wedding dress, ornamented with gold thread and strewn with embroidered roses, was made into a vestment for the Holy Sacrifice for the Bethsaida church in Jerusalem.  There are relics of it in Rome still...Mary wore it only for her wedding and never again."

    pg 383, The Life of the Blessed Virgin Mary,  from the visions of Ven. Anne Catherine Emmerich  TAN

    Wouldn't it be wonderful if traditional brides wore blue in imitation of Our Blessed Mother?
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    Re: Does the wedding dress need to be all white?
    « Reply #39 on: January 27, 2023, 02:48:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miseremini on January 27, 2023, 02:06:57 PM
    By our standards, if anyone had the right to wear white on their wedding day, it was the Blessed Virgin.

    In the writings of Anne Catherine Emmerich, Our Lady's wedding dress is described thus:

    "the beautiful sky-,blue wedding dress, ornamented with gold thread and strewn with embroidered roses, was made into a vestment for the Holy Sacrifice for the Bethsaida church in Jerusalem.  There are relics of it in Rome still...Mary wore it only for her wedding and never again."

    pg 383, The Life of the Blessed Virgin Mary,  from the visions of Ven. Anne Catherine Emmerich  TAN

    Wouldn't it be wonderful if traditional brides wore blue in imitation of Our Blessed Mother?
    My mother gave her gown to be made for vestments for a missionary priest.
    I wonder if she was inspired by the writings of Anne Catherine Emmerich.
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    Re: Does the wedding dress need to be all white?
    « Reply #40 on: January 27, 2023, 02:56:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: Philothea3 on January 27, 2023, 11:40:43 AM
    This is so nice! But I got another question now: is the headcovering necessary if one goes by ethnic clothings? Because as I see in those some of them have more of a crown that doesn't cover any hair
    I guess there a no really hard and fast rules, except for certain "traditionalists". In my mind, a crown would signify that the bride is a queen, at least of her husband's heart. A crown would cover just as much hair as a hat would. Why would a bride wish to cover all her hair?
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    Re: Does the wedding dress need to be all white?
    « Reply #41 on: January 27, 2023, 03:01:05 PM »
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    • From Europe we get the tradition of making the wedding gown into a Baptismal gown.
    The tradition being that all the children wearing it will love one another.
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    Re: Does the wedding dress need to be all white?
    « Reply #42 on: January 27, 2023, 03:29:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: Philothea3 on January 26, 2023, 11:32:45 PM
    Would you like to show us some examples?
    Also I came across video of this wedding (N.O. ofc and I apologise if it's you on the pics and do not want me to post this) and I was really facinated by the groom's ethnic costumes. I wonder if there's anything like that in other parts of Europe, especially the British, Welsh or Irish since there are so many of them in the are.



    Nidaros Cathedral is in Trondheim, a lovely medieval port city/university town. It's the burial site of St. Olaf, 11th c. king canonized 12th c. But that's not a N.O. wedding since the Lutherans grabbed this cathedral nearly five centuries ago. Still, that would be the folk provenance of the groom's outfit: western coast of Norway.
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    Re: Does the wedding dress need to be all white?
    « Reply #43 on: January 27, 2023, 05:17:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on January 27, 2023, 02:56:41 PM
    I guess there a no really hard and fast rules, except for certain "traditionalists". In my mind, a crown would signify that the bride is a queen, at least of her husband's heart. A crown would cover just as much hair as a hat would. Why would a bride wish to cover all her hair?
    Well some of the crowns shown are covering almost no hair and I thought it should be always a thing to cover hair in church and especially during Mass? I know the pictures are mostly outdoor but I still wonder if they would have their hair covered for Mass.
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    Re: Does the wedding dress need to be all white?
    « Reply #44 on: January 27, 2023, 05:45:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: Philothea3 on January 27, 2023, 05:17:02 PM
    Well some of the crowns shown are covering almost no hair and I thought it should be always a thing to cover hair in church and especially during Mass? I know the pictures are mostly outdoor but I still wonder if they would have their hair covered for Mass.
    I don't believe there was ever an emphasis on covering all the hair. 

    When I was young, pre Vatican 2, we always wore a hat for Mass. There was never a thought of covering the hair completely. Some older ladies wore a scarf on their heads. If we didn't have a hat, say when paying a random visit to a church, we would cover our head with a handkerchief, even if there was no Mas being offered.

    St Paul says in 1 Cor. 11 that a woman should cover her head as a sign of submission to the man. A layman never covers his head in Mass.

    The emphasis here is not on the hair but on the head.


    [3] But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. [4] Every man praying or prophesying with his head covered, disgraceth his head. [5] But every woman praying or prophesying with her head not covered, disgraceth her head: for it is all one as if she were shaven.
    [6] For if a woman be not covered, let her be shorn. But if it be a shame to a woman to be shorn or made bald, let her cover her head. [7] The man indeed ought not to cover his head, because he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of the man. [8] For the man is not of the woman, but the woman of the man. [9] For the man was not created for the woman, but the woman for the man. [10] Therefore ought the woman to have a power over her head, because of the angels.
    [10] "A power": that is, a veil or covering, as a sign that she is under the power of her husband: and this, the apostle adds, because of the angels, who are present in the assemblies of the faithful.
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