Author Topic: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ? (Read 24302 times)

Ladislaus · « **Reply #145 on:** June 26, 2018, 05:33:42 PM »

Quote from: Pax Vobis on June 26, 2018, 05:11:42 PM

These situations are 'church approved' reasons to separate and would be spelled out in the prenup as allowable terms for separation and there would be no penalties for a spouse doing so. I've admitted this multiple times already.

Then there are the blurry scenarios where each think that the other is in the wrong ... which is the case in 99% of all divorces. On top of that, all a bad-willed wife would have to do is to CLAIM abuse, and a judge would throw the thing out. It's worthless. If you can't trust your prospective wife not to divorce you for unjust reasons, then you can't trust her not to lie or exaggerate to invoke the abuse clause in the prenup.

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #146 on:** June 26, 2018, 05:49:36 PM »

All of you act like I or Croix invented the idea of prenups. You act like they haven’t been used in the court system for decades. You act like there aren’t lawyers who deal with these situations on a daily basis and know how to frame a docuмent to cover scenarios of this nature. The argument that “it won’t work/solve anything” is retarded.

Jaynek · « **Reply #147 on:** June 26, 2018, 06:27:28 PM »

Quote from: Pax Vobis on June 26, 2018, 05:49:36 PM

All of you act like I or Croix invented the idea of prenups. You act like they haven’t been used in the court system for decades. You act like there aren’t lawyers who deal with these situations on a daily basis and know how to frame a docuмent to cover scenarios of this nature. The argument that “it won’t work/solve anything” is retarded.

They have not been used by traditional Catholics. They have been used be people who don't care about protecting the permanence of marriage or making sure the prenup is compatible with Church teaching.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #148 on:** June 26, 2018, 06:48:30 PM »

Quote from: Pax Vobis on June 26, 2018, 05:49:36 PM

All of you act like I or Croix invented the idea of prenups. You act like they haven’t been used in the court system for decades. You act like there aren’t lawyers who deal with these situations on a daily basis and know how to frame a docuмent to cover scenarios of this nature. The argument that “it won’t work/solve anything” is retarded.

Secular prenups that "hold" don't involve various Catholic clauses. If there's a clause, as you said, to void the terms of the prenup if a husband abuses his wife, then the wife need merely claim abuse to void the prenup. That's just fact and not retarded.

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #149 on:** June 26, 2018, 07:09:44 PM »

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They have not been used by traditional Catholics. They have been used be people who don't care about protecting the permanence of marriage or making sure the prenup is compatible with Church teaching.

What’s so “special” about a Trad divorce? If a prenup is ever needed (God forbid), then permanence of marriage and Church teaching has already been TRASHED by one of the spouses who is requesting a divorce. It’s not the lawyer’s fault that the marriage broke up and there’s nothing he can do to fix it. All he’s there to do is make sure the divorce is fair to both parties, per the agreement.

A prenup is a tool, just like a weapon. If you’re trying to blame the prenup for a divorce then you should blame the gun for the murder. But we all know that logic doesn’t work.

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