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Where do you stand on Marriage Prenups and State Marriage Licenses?

I FAVOR a Catholic prenup and REFUSE a state marriage license.
2 (8.3%)
I REFUSE a Catholic Prenup and ACCEPT a state marriage license.
1 (4.2%)
I accept Catholic marriage vows and state laws as written (and pray I'm not divorced).
13 (54.2%)
I don't have a firm opinion on either one.
3 (12.5%)
I hope to get to Heaven by remaining single.
5 (20.8%)

Total Members Voted: 20

Voting closed: July 05, 2018, 07:43:47 PM

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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2018, 07:13:54 AM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on June 23, 2018, 09:29:31 PM
Obviously, if one is in a happy marriage, there is no concern about a prenup.  So they don't have the same uncertainty that single people do.

Either way, it's a good discussion in theory, based on the practical dangers that exist in the court system today.
A "happy" marriage?  How do you define that?  
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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2018, 07:22:38 AM »
Quote from: MaterDominici on June 23, 2018, 10:25:22 PM
I'm not keeping up with all of the 4-5 threads on this topic, so pardon if this has already been mentioned...

I think a legal docuмent pertaining to a marriage (prenup) written up by a priest with no particular couple in mind to be used as wished by any couple would be a NEUTRAL - GOOD idea.

I think a particular couple attempting to draw up such an agreement prior to their own marriage would be a BAD idea.

Basically, a docuмent created by the Church to be used universally, but not required, would aid a couple in committing to the permanence of their marriage, but attempting to draw up such an agreement yourselves just prior to marriage would have a negative effect on the novice relationship.
I must be dense.  I thought a pre-nup is drawn up in the event of a divorce down the road.  Why would a priest draw up a docuмent with this sort of purpose?  Why would a priest think that a prenup that he drew up would help make a commitment more permanent if a promise to the Lord wasn't enough? 
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Offline Croix de Fer

Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2018, 07:58:01 AM »
Quote from: 2Vermont on June 24, 2018, 07:22:38 AM
I must be dense.  I thought a pre-nup is drawn up in the event of a divorce down the road.  Why would a priest draw up a docuмent with this sort of purpose?  Why would a priest think that a prenup that he drew up would help make a commitment more permanent if a promise to the Lord wasn't enough?
The point of a prenup is to protect men from financial ruin by gold-digging women, and to prevent his kids from being stolen from him by a malicious, vindictive woman, since the courts effect female privilege regardless of the reason for "divorce". It's not about making a commitment more permanent. That can only happen by the grace of God.
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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2018, 08:00:45 AM »
Quote from: Croix de Fer on June 24, 2018, 07:58:01 AM
The point of a prenup is to protect men from financial ruin by gold-digging women, and to prevent his kids from being stolen from him by a malicious, vindictive woman, since the courts effect female privilege regardless of the reason for "divorce". It's not about making a commitment more permanent. That can only happen by the grace of God.
But it's still "in the event of a divorce", no?
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Offline Croix de Fer

Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2018, 08:08:58 AM »
Quote from: 2Vermont on June 24, 2018, 08:00:45 AM
But it's still "in the event of a divorce", no?
Not sure what you're asking, but there is no real divorce in the Eyes of God. The State will grant the divorce. The prenup will protect the man from getting his house, equity, bank accounts, assets, etc. stolen from him by the woman divorcing him, if there is no evidence of any fault of his own that lead to the divorce (many women nowadays divorce men because the women don't feel like being married anymore), and the prenup is written to protect him in such manner. Of course, the prenup and outcome of the "divorce" depends on how the prenup is written (and signed) in accordance to the wishes of both parties involved.
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