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Where do you stand on Marriage Prenups and State Marriage Licenses?

I FAVOR a Catholic prenup and REFUSE a state marriage license.
2 (8.3%)
I REFUSE a Catholic Prenup and ACCEPT a state marriage license.
1 (4.2%)
I accept Catholic marriage vows and state laws as written (and pray I'm not divorced).
13 (54.2%)
I don't have a firm opinion on either one.
3 (12.5%)
I hope to get to Heaven by remaining single.
5 (20.8%)

Total Members Voted: 20

Voting closed: July 05, 2018, 07:43:47 PM

Author Topic: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?  (Read 19866 times)

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Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2018, 09:08:07 PM »
Nothing of this would be necessary if divorce was made illicit again.

The Catechism of the Council of Trent gave this definition of marriage:

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It is the conjugal union between a man and a woman, both in legal status, establishing a perpetual and indissoluble communion of lives.


Any single action against this definition should simply be out of the question for Roman Catholics. It is a true shame that Catholics are not acting any better than the heathen on this (or on anything, really).

Divorce should be outlawed. No man nor woman should be able to break their legal and religious vows. Society is broken to pieces because instead of people performing their duty before God and State, they get away with following their spontaneous whims, as if the original sin was not a real thing.

Also, the least thing we need as traditional Catholics is to add more incentive to our youth NOT to marry and form families. Why are we committing ѕυιcιdє? I think we have more than enough of it coming from the wicked world.


Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2018, 09:10:52 PM »
We all agree on your idealism, but reality says these issues must be discussed.


Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2018, 09:17:17 PM »
Nothing of this would be necessary if divorce was made illicit again.

The Catechism of the Council of Trent gave this definition of marriage:


Any single action against this definition should simply be out of the question for Roman Catholics. It is a true shame that Catholics are not acting any better than the heathen on this (or on anything, really).

Divorce should be outlawed. No man nor woman should be able to break their legal and religious vows. Society is broken to pieces because instead of people performing their duty before God and State, they get away with following their spontaneous whims, as if the original sin was not a real thing.

Also, the least thing we need as traditional Catholics is to add more incentive to our youth NOT to marry and form families. Why are we committing ѕυιcιdє? I think we have more than enough of it coming from the wicked world.

What Pax Vobis said.

None of what you said practically addresses the epidemic of men getting financially raped, and his kids stolen from him, by women using the courts that heavily favor women. They've virtually codified female privilege into their laws and rulings.

Men must protect themselves. Prenups (and no State marriage license, although, some issues there as Pax Vobis mentioned) are the best protection.

Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2018, 09:22:52 PM »
We all agree on your idealism, but reality says these issues must be discussed.

I do notice a big discrepancy on the opinions of the married men vs. the single men on these issues.

I wonder why that is.

It is alarming that things are going this sour nowadays. 

Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2018, 09:29:31 PM »

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I do notice a big discrepancy on the opinions of the married men vs. the single men on these issues. 

I wonder why that is. 
Obviously, if one is in a happy marriage, there is no concern about a prenup.  So they don't have the same uncertainty that single people do.

Either way, it's a good discussion in theory, based on the practical dangers that exist in the court system today.