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Where do you stand on Marriage Prenups and State Marriage Licenses?

I FAVOR a Catholic prenup and REFUSE a state marriage license.
2 (8.3%)
I REFUSE a Catholic Prenup and ACCEPT a state marriage license.
1 (4.2%)
I accept Catholic marriage vows and state laws as written (and pray I'm not divorced).
13 (54.2%)
I don't have a firm opinion on either one.
3 (12.5%)
I hope to get to Heaven by remaining single.
5 (20.8%)

Total Members Voted: 20

Voting closed: July 05, 2018, 07:43:47 PM

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #125 on: June 26, 2018, 12:45:05 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on June 26, 2018, 11:50:48 AM
2.  If the husband retains an equitable amount of his assets, then the immoral wife will not have an INCENTIVE to leave.  She will see that to leave a family situation, no matter how bad, will be worse, because her 'financial security' as a mom will be severely compromised.  This in and of itself, would be a deterrent to divorce.  It would be a catalyst for the couple to act like adults to figure out their problems.  As it is, a wife can leave a "boring" marriage and be better off financially than being married.  This is insanity.

Usually, even with the current laws, the wife and children take a step back financially after a divorce ... unless she shacks up with another guy and gets some of his income on top of what she's collecting in alimony and child support.  It's your fault if you marry a woman who will leave a marriage because it's "boring".
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #126 on: June 26, 2018, 12:47:18 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on June 26, 2018, 11:50:48 AM
3.  This is not all about $.  It's more about authority and control.  If the woman can leave and get $, then she has independence and therefore she can live the feminist dream of being in charge and financially taken care of.  She would also be in a better position to re-marry, if she so chooses.

Again, it's your fault if you marry someone like that.  I know it's about control for you ... but it should be about charity and justice instead.  Control is typically a very self-serving notion.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #127 on: June 26, 2018, 12:48:43 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on June 26, 2018, 11:50:48 AM
1b.  As far as damage to the children, one could write an encyclopedia of volumes on the damage a divorce does to them, their future and their outlook on the faith (and life in general).  I don't have time to enumerate all the messages the children will absorb, so I trust most of you get the problems.

NOBODY is disputing this.
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Offline Peter15and1

Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #128 on: June 26, 2018, 12:49:09 PM »
Quote from: Incredulous on June 26, 2018, 08:54:22 AM
In contrast, Ireland, which historically & culturally rejected divorce, still holds the lowest divorce rate in Europe.

Around 100K divorces since they changed the laws in 1995.  Whereas Spain averages 100K/year.
That's a pretty useless comparison, given that Spain's population is ten times that of Ireland (46.7 million vs 4.7 million).  A comparison of the actual rate of divorce would be useful, raw numbers are not.
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Offline Jaynek

Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #129 on: June 26, 2018, 12:50:13 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on June 26, 2018, 12:42:46 PM
I have the same attitude.  My wife works more than I do and if I were gone, she would have no way to support herself and our six children because she gave up any career in order to raise them.  So it's our money.  Now Croix would undoubtedly call me and your husband betas for this reason.
Anyone who calls a man like that a "beta" is using secular rather than Catholic standards. 
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