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Where do you stand on Marriage Prenups and State Marriage Licenses?

I FAVOR a Catholic prenup and REFUSE a state marriage license.
2 (8.3%)
I REFUSE a Catholic Prenup and ACCEPT a state marriage license.
1 (4.2%)
I accept Catholic marriage vows and state laws as written (and pray I'm not divorced).
13 (54.2%)
I don't have a firm opinion on either one.
3 (12.5%)
I hope to get to Heaven by remaining single.
5 (20.8%)

Total Members Voted: 20

Voting closed: July 05, 2018, 07:43:47 PM

Author Topic: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?  (Read 19734 times)

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This poll's intention is to re-set the discussion on two "marriage warning" posts recently made by Croix de Fer.

("Men watch this before you get married" & "Men the system is against you")

They are fascinating and explosive topics, introduced by Youtube commentary from two black protestant ministers.

While there were plenty of insults, thrown both ways, it seems Croix has identified important points on the "Marriage Crisis" today.
It's a worthy topic to be analyzed and debated in a civil manner.

Note: We Catholics are so judaized, we fail to recognize the traps laid to destroy us.  
Consider the Sacrament of Extreme Unction and how the state has usurped Church authority with their Organ transplant & Euthanasia industries.  Like a Marriage Prenup, going into a hospital requires a Living Will docuмent to prevent the hospital from harvesting our organs or euthanizing us.

Before you vote, please use these definitions:

1. Prenuptial agreement: A signed agreement between a man & woman that is in keeping with the Catholic Sacrament of Matrimony.

For example: "I, Croix de Fer, vow to honor you as my wife and will never to divorce you"  
                  "I, Miss Trad Lady, vow to submit to you, Croix, my husband and will never divorce you."

The key is to adhere to the Catholic matrimony vows of old and deny the legal traps laid by the masonic state.

2. Marriage License: A docuмent typically issued by a masonic governmental authority allowing two people to get married.

Offline MaterDominici

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Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2018, 07:49:49 PM »
Question #1 - Shouldn't you use a different term to refer to the promises given in vows since "prenup" generally refers to a financial agreement?

Question #2 - Elaborate on the difference between #2 & #3. I'm sure if I read all of that other thread, it would be more clear, but I haven't read it all, so I don't see a huge difference.


Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2018, 07:50:53 PM »
In those terms, prenups are fine, but those are basically marriage vows, ie, the sacrament that you can’t get rid of until death do you part. The problem here is the prenups are divorce agreements. Should this fail, I get x, you get y. So I would refuse both, and accept that regardless, I am a married man, and nothing besides my death or my wife’s can change that. Like back in the “olden days”

Can you validly marry when you already have your divorce planned? No. Marriage is until death do you part. It’s simple. It’s the V2 cult that’s complicated things, with all its bedroom terminology and pornographic “education” and that seems to have seeped into tradition. Sad. 

Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2018, 07:53:05 PM »
Practically speaking I see the good in “being off the grid” when it comes to avoiding a marriage license.  However, if one chooses that path, then it also poses legal problems since your spouse is not recognized as your spouse by the state’s legal system.  This would affect legal docuмents such as wills, titles to property, insurance, taxes, everything.  So, discussions with a lawyer would be absolutely necessary to make sure your spouse could do many things that a marriage license automatically gives you.  Food for thought.  

Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2018, 07:56:20 PM »
While it is typical for polls to be framed in a way to produce the desired result, one does not often see such blatant manipulation as the "definitions" provided with this poll. 

A prenuptial agreement is usually an agreement on what the couple will do in case of divorce.  A marriage license is issued by the state whether or not there is masonic influence on the state. 

Incredulous has tried to " reset the discussion" so that everyone will agree with his position.