Author Topic: Do Traditionalists Ever Have Any Fun? (Read 26203 times)

Raoul76 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 08, 2012, 07:46:31 PM »

Please read the thread again. I did not agree with SantoSubito's post. I agreed with CatherineofSiena. If she is a liberal of some kind who thinks like SantoSubito or like Sigismund, I did not know, I am not on the site as much as before. Because those are the real liberals of this site; not PereJoseph, S2Srea or myself.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #21 on:** July 08, 2012, 07:49:00 PM »

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Please read the thread again. I did not agree with SantoSubito's post. I agreed with CatherineofSiena. If she is a liberal of some kind who thinks like SantoSubito or like Sigismund, I did not know, I am not on the site as much as before. Because those are the real liberals of this site; not PereJoseph, S2Srea or myself.

Drawing an equivalence between those things "to an extreme" and feminism and modernism?

That's ludicrous. And it's pathetic not to recognize how wretched the article is.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 08, 2012, 07:54:05 PM »

It doesn't matter if there are heresies/errors on the left, or on the right. They are still heresies/errors. Right-wing heresies are not "more righteous," they are just another kind of heresy. Pharisees will probably be in hell just the same as Pelagians will probably be in hell. Can you grasp this concept?

When I see people who are swinging from Vatican II, to some kind of admiration of nαzιs, it is clear the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction. That is not the same as my being a liberal; it is my being prudent and refusing to be duped by the devil, or to let him play me like a violin. I do not go from one extreme to another; I espouse the balance that Catherine talked about.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #23 on:** July 08, 2012, 08:00:19 PM »

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It doesn't matter if there are heresies/errors on the left, or on the right. They are still heresies/errors. Right-wing heresies are not "more righteous," they are just another kind of heresy. Pharisees will probably be in hell just the same as Pelagians will probably be in hell. Can you grasp this concept?

Sure, and I can also grasp that the article is trash, and that "to an extreme" is a favorite word liberalizers and laxists use give them the opportunity to condemn things that are good Catholic practices.

It's a lot like the defense of drunkenness I've seen here.

These people attack tee-totalers, when tee-totaling isn't sinful, and then defend drunkenness.

It's rather obvious why they do it.

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When I see people who are swinging from Vatican II, to some kind of admiration of nαzιs, it is clear the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction.

Because there's nothing at all to admire in the Third Reich?

You're grouping in all sorts of people, and bringing Hitler into this discussion, because you're a smear artist. You smear people. Hitler has nothing to do with this discussion, but you bring him up, like you belonged to the SPLC or the ADL.

Bishop Williamson is against pants on women, and is a nαzι!

How do those two things get connected?

By people smearing traditionalists - people with traditional view as being nαzιs.

And you are participating in that.

Krah the Zionist defends miniskirts. The brainless reason:

The opponent of miniskirts opposes Zionism because he's a nαzι.

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That is not the same as my being a liberal; it is my being prudent and refusing to be duped by the devil, or to let him play me like a violin. I do not go from one extreme to another; I espouse the balance that Catherine talked about.

Your thinking is too chaotic to be called liberal: that your attitudes heavily influenced by Southern California and Hollywood is to be expected.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #24 on:** July 08, 2012, 08:04:33 PM »

What you get from Raoul, is vague smearing. No criticism at all for an article that attacks good Catholic practices, that essentially tells people not to be "trad" because they're "no fun" - really an evil article.

Jansenist hitler loving extremists.

That's something that could come straight from the ADL or SPLC, that's the bottom line, and someone speaks like that because their brain works from the baseline of the culture those groups have helped to form.