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Traditional Catholic Faith => Catholic Living in the Modern World => Topic started by: Seraphina on January 08, 2024, 04:35:10 PM

Title: Disgusting but no surprise
Post by: Seraphina on January 08, 2024, 04:35:10 PM
https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2024/01/25-year-old-book-by-vatican-doctrinal-czar-surfaces-on-god-and-orgasms/

These bishops and priests have had their minds in the sewer for decades.
Title: Re: Disgusting but no surprise
Post by: TheRealMcCoy on January 08, 2024, 05:40:59 PM
I guess you're not familiar with Christopher West's work on "Theology of the Body".  It's absolutely pornographic.  It compares the marital act to the Eucharist which undoubtedly is blasphemous.
Title: Re: Disgusting but no surprise
Post by: Seraphina on January 08, 2024, 05:49:05 PM
I guess you're not familiar with Christopher West's work on "Theology of the Body".  It's absolutely pornographic.  It compares the marital act to the Eucharist which undoubtedly is blasphemous.
No, I’m not familiar with it, and would like to keep it that way.
Title: Re: Disgusting but no surprise
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on January 08, 2024, 06:09:52 PM


News flash…..That’s not the Catholic Church and those degenerates aren’t Catholics.
Title: Re: Disgusting but no surprise
Post by: Ladislaus on January 08, 2024, 06:22:51 PM
I guess you're not familiar with Christopher West's work on "Theology of the Body".  It's absolutely pornographic.  It compares the marital act to the Eucharist which undoubtedly is blasphemous.

West is a complete pervert.  I've only seen one small talk by him, and turned if off after 10 minutes.  He was mocking and deriding the saints who kept custody of the eyes (physically mocking them by making a caricature of what it might look like) and decided that the immersion of the Pascal Candle into the Holy Water at the Easter Vigil was a phallic symbol.  West sees phalluses everywhere ... and is therefore quite possibly a closeted sodomite.
Title: Re: Disgusting but no surprise
Post by: ElwinRansom1970 on January 08, 2024, 08:20:29 PM
Christopher West's work on "Theology of the Body". 
West's Theology of the Body is based on Wojtyła's Wednesday audiences in the early 1980s. TOB is all the rage in the USA Novus Ordo, being taught in parishes and schools.
Title: Re: Disgusting but no surprise
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on January 09, 2024, 10:13:50 AM
West's Theology of the Body is based on Wojtyła's Wednesday audiences in the early 1980s. TOB is all the rage in the USA Novus Ordo, being taught in parishes and schools.
Yes. It was also taught in homeschool co op in our area. 

New Jersey area “ Catholic” schools  also had United perverted nation sex ed classes long before public schools. 
Title: Re: Disgusting but no surprise
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on January 09, 2024, 10:17:19 AM
Is the pope a sodomite?

Most of his pseudo Pontificate has been spent promoting evil instead of good. 
Title: Re: Disgusting but no surprise
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on January 09, 2024, 10:24:14 AM

News flash…..That’s not the Catholic Church and those degenerates aren’t Catholics.
Title: Re: Disgusting but no surprise
Post by: Ladislaus on January 09, 2024, 10:33:48 AM
Is the pope a sodomite?

I would have to guess that the Antipope is in fact a sodomite.  He was notorious for protecting sodomites (along with Tucho) in Argentina.  Ann Barnhardt seems convinced that he is and has a bunch of source material from Argentina.  Evidently, the Argentines know this guy very well and there's a reason he won't go back and visit his "homeland" as Antipope.
Title: Re: Disgusting but no surprise
Post by: WorldsAway on January 09, 2024, 11:01:23 AM
West is a complete pervert.  I've only seen one small talk by him, and turned if off after 10 minutes.  He was mocking and deriding the saints who kept custody of the eyes (physically mocking them by making a caricature of what it might look like) and decided that the immersion of the Pascal Candle into the Holy Water at the Easter Vigil was a phallic symbol.  West sees phalluses everywhere ... and is therefore quite possibly a closeted sodomite.
Never heard of him until this thread, watched a bit of this video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibgvvEm1Rok&ab_channel=TheologyoftheBodyInstitute

Besides implicitly denying the existence of Adam & Eve at 5:35, he lays out three options for dealing with temptations to lust;

1. Consent to the temptations. He says he does not "recommend that"
2. Keep custody of the eyes, "shove down" any lustful thoughts or desires into the "subconsciousness". Doesn't mention praying at all. He also does not "recommend that"
3. Consent to looking at a woman, to thank God for her beauty and the "spousal meaning" of her body(?!), but to reject the temptation to lust that will proceed from looking at the woman. This, he recommends 

Numerous times I have seen  Sirach 3:27 "A hard heart shall fear evil at the last: and he that loveth danger shall perish in it." quoted in works when dealing with occasions of sin. We are obligated to avoid unnecessary proximate occasions of sin, yet Mr. West is recommending willfully placing yourself in one
Title: Re: Disgusting but no surprise
Post by: Persto on January 09, 2024, 11:06:12 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/aktRKWy.png)
Title: Re: Disgusting but no surprise
Post by: Soubirous on January 09, 2024, 12:32:36 PM
There's a lot more to it than merely the lascivious that's monopolizing public attention. The book in question is actually dangerous for the following reasons in line with the La Sallette messages:

a) The mystical experiences of the Saints are repackaged as corporeal (of the 6th/9th sort) rather than spiritual.

b) In the chapters with too-much-information about the conjugal act (including when enacted by individuals who have no right to do so under the laws of both the Church and nature), Fernandez references lines of analysis from occult and pagan sources.

c) The book contains a detailed account of a teenage girl's lurid experience that directly blasphemes Our Lord and Our Lady. Timing, again: this latest scandal hits the weekend of the First Friday and First Saturday as well as Sunday's observance of the Feast of the Holy Family. And Bergoglio tries to distract the news cycle by speaking out against gestational surrogacy, of all things?  

The usual media popesplainers are all spinning the scandal as so much silly prurient pearl-clutching over tired old obscure news. The reality is that it's about sins against the First Commandment hiding behind sins of the flesh. And THAT is the real story for anyone who understands what the current occupants of the Vatican are purposefully driving towards.
Title: Re: Disgusting but no surprise
Post by: 2Vermont on January 09, 2024, 03:30:12 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/aktRKWy.png)
He was actually a cute kid.
Title: Re: Disgusting but no surprise
Post by: Ladislaus on January 09, 2024, 03:31:52 PM
He was actually a cute kid.

Something happened between the left 2 and then the right 2.  We should pray for him.  It's easy to forget that when we're all busy being outraged by the evil he's perpetrating, but he was someone's child too, and I don't wish the judgment he might get for what he's done on my worst enemy.
Title: Re: Disgusting but no surprise
Post by: Ladislaus on January 09, 2024, 03:34:28 PM
I know that the Taylor Marshalls of the world are all worked up into a lather about this (admittedly filthy) book, but if that's all we had, a filthy book written by a head of the (un-)Holy Office as a private person, before his appointment ... but the Magisterium and the Mass were still Catholic, it wouldn't be worth spilling a lot of ink over it.  It's more important for what it says about Bergoglio in having chosen him, in having promoted not only him, but every manner of pervert, pedophile, and heretic to high offices in the Bergoglian "Church" while punishing the faithful Traditional ones.  We've had some pervert popes even, but they didn't tamper with the Traditional Faith or the Mass.

In a sense, this is a distraction from the "Magisterium" of Jorge.  Who knows?  Perhaps they leaked this out precisely to distract from the evil of Fiducia Fornicans.  Maybe Tucho was willing to "take one for the team" here as a distraction.  I find the timing of this a bit suspect, as that book has been out there for decades.