Author Topic: Discerning One's Vocation By De-Fault (Read 894 times)

AMDGJMJ · « **on:** July 19, 2019, 02:27:24 PM »

INTRODUCTION

Back when the Church was flourishing almost every person had access to a priest who could be their confessor and help them to discern their vocation in life. These days such is often not possible. So, I would like to share what I have learned from the writings of the saints about how priests used to discern vocations for those under their guidance.

WHAT THE SAINTS AND HOLY WRITERS SAY

The saints say that “You shall be saved by doing the will of God” and that “This is the will of God: your salvation”.

The holy writers also say furthermore that “Every man has a primary fault which he is greatly inclined towards” and that “The overcoming of one’s predominate fault should be his primary concern in life”.

By putting all of these precepts together we can conclude that a man’s calling in life is: The will of God is to embrace whichever vocation will best help him overcome his predominant fault and thus to gain eternal life. It now remains to explain how diverse faults can indicate that a person should embrace the different states of life.

THE RELIGIOUS LIFE

Most nuns, monks, and priests make a vow of poverty, chastity and obedience. To take such a vow, one should be at least somewhat certain and determined to fulfill these promises. For, a person who frequently breaks profound vows to God will continuously build up sin upon his head for which he will have to make atonement either in this life or the next.

A person whose primary faults are pride, stubbornness, disrespectfulness and disobedience may have a hard time keeping a vow of obedience.

A person whose primary faults are gluttony, greed, and avarice may have a hard time making a vow of poverty.

A person whose primary faults are against the sin of purity may have a hard time keeping a vow of chastity.

On the other hand, he who is naturally inclined to be quiet, submissive, and whose primary fault is the need for constant guidance and discipline to keep them on track to accomplish anything will find the religious life an unlimited source for growth in virtue and advancement in the spiritual life.

Also, it should be added that there is no harm, and perhaps much good, in visiting a convent or monastery for a while to discern a vocation and one’s ability to make and keep such vows even if one will not join a religious order in the end.

THE MARRIED STATE

The married state requires a great deal of humility, charity, meekness and often forces these virtues upon those who might not already have them.

A person whose primary fault is pride will find that this vocation will help them become more modest because of all the humiliating circuмstances that come with it. Some examples of this are: Not being able to keep a spotless house; being covered in excrement from leaky diapers, vomit from babies or other children throwing up; being blamed for any fault your child or spouse commits in public.

A person whose primary fault is selfishness and stubbornness will find that being faithful to the duties of the married life almost forces them to be less willful and be more charitable by the fact that their lives and bodies no longer belong just to themselves and God and they must often put the needs of their spouse and children before themselves and their own wants.

A person whose primary fault is wrath may find that the matrimonial vocation helps give them many opportunities to fight against their anger. Children can annoy and test the limit of even the most patient and gentle people by their bickering and screams. Due to constant pestering from children and spouses one can also find the means to practice great meekness.

On the other hand, a person whose primary faults are laziness and timidity may find it hard to discipline their children and through marriage might run the risk of losing their souls by not fulfilling their duties properly.

THE SINGLE STATE

Originally the single state was taken up only by those who were had neither a religious vocation nor were able to marry. Single people used to consist primarily of those who were infirm, disabled, or who had specific duties to their parents or families which obliged them not to pursue another vocation. Such people usually made a vow of virginity and committed themselves to a vocation in the world and of performing acts of mercy towards those around them.

This vocation requires a strong mind and will yet also a great deal of humility as one’s primary purpose is to serve those around them.

A person whose primary fault is laziness should not generally embrace this life as they might lose the incentive to do anything with their life at all.

A person whose primary fault is pride should generally not embrace this life as they will tend to think that the works they accomplish alone, without any help from a religious order, are very great and may easily become even more proud and puffed up.

A person whose primary fault is anger should not embrace this life as it will make it harder for them to serve those around them in kindness and charity as this vocation requires.

On the other hand, this vocation could be seen as useful for those whose primary faults are those of the flesh since keeping busy in works of mercy they will be more likely too preoccupied to overeat or overindulge.

AFTERNOTE

There are always exceptions to the norm and it is not my intention to tell any particular person what their vocation is. It is also important to note that a person who overcomes his predominant fault before embracing a particular state in life may find it easy to embrace almost any state of life. Thus, much prayer, penance and patience is required to discern truly to which vocation one has been called to by God. Parents should instill in their children from an early age the idea that they should pray daily to know the will of God for them in their lives. Finally, until one knows their vocation, he should concentrate his time and efforts on conquering and overcoming his predominant fault so as to better accomplish the duties of his vocation once it is made known to him.

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Pax Vobis · « **Reply #1 on:** July 19, 2019, 04:03:05 PM »

This article is so general, that it didn't even need to be written.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #2 on:** July 19, 2019, 04:45:28 PM »

:)Thank you for this article.

AMDGJMJ · « **Reply #3 on:** July 23, 2019, 08:41:09 AM »

Quote from: Pax Vobis on July 19, 2019, 04:03:05 PM

This article is so general, that it didn't even need to be written.

Sorry it wasn't able to help you at all. I gave specific examples of how confessors usually determined everything. Yet, every person if different. So, they are more guidelines than actual rules. This is why people have to discern their vocation. If it was all black and white such would not be necessary. Yet, we know from the lives of the saints that discenment is necessary.
God sometimes likes to keep a person guessing for awhile as to what their vocation is so instead of focusing on it they can ficus on growing in virtue first.

AMDGJMJ · « **Reply #4 on:** July 23, 2019, 08:41:35 AM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on July 19, 2019, 04:45:28 PM

:)Thank you for this article.

You are most welcome! 😊

forlorn · « **Reply #5 on:** July 23, 2019, 02:42:19 PM »

Quote from: Pax Vobis on July 19, 2019, 04:03:05 PM

This article is so general, that it didn't even need to be written.

I found the tip of considering what one's primary vice is and how it might be tested by different walks of life to be useful. It sounds obvious now that I've heard it, and yet it's not something I had considered beforehand.

AMDGJMJ · « **Reply #6 on:** July 23, 2019, 05:56:08 PM »

Quote from: forlorn on July 23, 2019, 02:42:19 PM

I found the tip of considering what one's primary vice is and how it might be tested by different walks of life to be useful. It sounds obvious now that I've heard it, and yet it's not something I had considered beforehand.

I am glad you found the idea of the primary vices useful. I hadn't put it all together in my mind until a couple years ago but once I did it helped me determine my vocation. I wished I had made sense of it earlier and that is why I shared it here. So, others might be saved the many years I had of trying to figure out how to discern one's vocation at all. God bless!

Seraphina · « **Reply #7 on:** July 23, 2019, 07:50:01 PM »

I’m in a vocation by default.

I’d never heard of choosing or discerning a vocation until I was 48 years of age—-a little too late. I was raised “Catholic” but wasn’t taught much of anything. For better or worse, I’m single, in the world. Looking back, I never envisioned myself as married with children, so I believe in a different age, I’d have become a sister, probably in a teaching, nursing, or missionary order. At age 61, with health issues, I think I must continue as I am!

AMDGJMJ · « **Reply #8 on:** July 26, 2019, 11:08:32 AM »

Quote from: Seraphina on July 23, 2019, 07:50:01 PM

I’m in a vocation by default. I’d never heard of choosing or discerning a vocation until I was 48 years of age—-a little too late. I was raised “Catholic” but wasn’t taught much of anything. For better or worse, I’m single, in the world. Looking back, I never envisioned myself as married with children, so I believe in a different age, I’d have become a sister, probably in a teaching, nursing, or missionary order. At age 61, with health issues, I think I must continue as I am!

Most people don't talk about vocations as much as they once did. So, it is not your fault.
Sorry about your health... 😣
Hang in there! 🤗
And please keep us all in your prayers! 😇

MrsMegafin · « **Reply #9 on:** July 30, 2019, 05:50:27 AM »

While it can be an overgeneralization, rarely people think about this. A lot of boys from boys schools have run off to the seminary without vocations, similarly how many people have married because the intellect jellied and they made a bad decision? I know a trad who literally tries to get all single men to run off anywhere there are Catholic men and just get married. That does not necessarily form a virtuous marriage!

forlorn · « **Reply #10 on:** July 30, 2019, 03:55:13 PM »

Quote from: MrsMegafin on July 30, 2019, 05:50:27 AM

While it can be an overgeneralization, rarely people think about this. A lot of boys from boys schools have run off to the seminary without vocations, similarly how many people have married because the intellect jellied and they made a bad decision? I know a trad who literally tries to get all single men to run off anywhere there are Catholic men and just get married. That does not necessarily form a virtuous marriage!

No, that certainly would not be a virtuous marriage. Or a marriage full stop, for that matter.

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