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Offline Raoul76

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Did I do well, Telesphorus?
« on: April 28, 2011, 11:08:24 AM »
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  • Telesphorus, you would be proud of me.  I have a friend who has a daughter who is 16, nearly 17, and who has a choice between going to Harvard ( she has an 80% chance of getting in ) and getting married.  Her beau is from El Salvador and was a trad Catholic there, then came to America and was confused and ended up becoming Baptist.  But the mom is sure she will convince him to come to CMRI.  My advice was that if he does, then I recommend they get married and that the girl doesn't go to college.  He is applying to Cornell and he should be the bread-winner, if there is any bread to be won.

    The mother told me I was an answer to her prayers and that I opened her eyes, that maybe her daughter in her academic pursuits is "chasing shadows."  For some reason, the mom also gets a large pension that will allow her to move into a nice house if her daughter gets married... Don't ask me why.  This came out after I gave her my opinion, but it appeared to give more weight to my opinion.

    So far, of two other people at CMRI I've talked to, both of them disagree with me.  I'm starting to see what you're talking about.   I do feel there is a slight worldliness in thinking that girls should EVER go to these communist universities unless absolutely necessary for survival.  In this case, it isn't.

    I never said that I thought girls should go to these colleges.  I was saying that waiting is not always a bad thing, depending on the spouses' spiritual development.  But even then, if a woman is spiritually undeveloped, marriage may be the best way to keep her in line.  Now that I think about it, it's hard for me to imagine a case when it would be inadvisable for a girl to marry young.  She may choose someone who is not fitting for her, due to her youth, but that's a different story.  If she meets someone who IS fitting at 18, there is no reason to wait whatsoever in almost any case, in my opinion.
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.


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    Did I do well, Telesphorus?
    « Reply #1 on: April 28, 2011, 11:15:32 AM »
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  • It really does come down to what you value most.

    My older sister was accepted to Harvard but went to Georgetown instead! (out of the frying pan into the fryer)

    In any case, it's a moot point, isn't it?  She's an old maid now.

    If the girl wants to marry she should definitely marry rather than going to Harvard.

    An intelligent girl gives a lot more to the world in raising intelligent children than in getting a prestigious piece of paper.

    But status is so awfully tempting.


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    Did I do well, Telesphorus?
    « Reply #2 on: April 28, 2011, 11:18:46 AM »
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  • Good job Raoul.  You seem to have  a gift for persuasion.

    I think I need to focus on persuading the persuaders, because I do not have a gift for persuasion.

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    « Reply #3 on: April 28, 2011, 11:29:11 AM »
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  • Hopefully the beau is not really a Baptist.  

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    Did I do well, Telesphorus?
    « Reply #4 on: April 28, 2011, 12:50:17 PM »
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  • From what I understand, his intellect is not as firm as it could be, in terms of religious understanding -- as with most people out there -- and when he came to America with his mother, they didn't know where to go.  But the woman I was talking to is almost sure that he will respond well to traditional Catholicism.    
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.


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    Did I do well, Telesphorus?
    « Reply #5 on: April 28, 2011, 06:52:36 PM »
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  • Quote from: Raoul76
    From what I understand, his intellect is not as firm as it could be, in terms of religious understanding -- as with most people out there -- and when he came to America with his mother, they didn't know where to go.  But the woman I was talking to is almost sure that he will respond well to traditional Catholicism.    


    Not trying to rain on your parade Raoul, but have you discussed with the mother what the result would be if he didn't respond to True Church teachings?

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    Did I do well, Telesphorus?
    « Reply #6 on: April 28, 2011, 07:14:01 PM »
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  • That just happened, she wrote me today saying that he is a Friends of Israel Baptist.  When she told him he'd have to convert, he began crying!

    Of course she is against the idea of marriage now.  
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #7 on: April 28, 2011, 07:20:46 PM »
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    That just happened, she wrote me today saying that he is a Friends of Israel Baptist.  When she told him he'd have to convert, he began crying!

    Of course she is against the idea of marriage now.  


    If she goes to Harvard I hope we can find out if she keeps the Faith or not.  Sending a pretty girl into a place like that is like sending a lamb to the lions.


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    « Reply #8 on: April 28, 2011, 07:24:20 PM »
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  • Another thing: if she were thinking of marrying a Protestant then it already shows a streak of rebellion at work.  Hopefully he will convert. (it does seem though, that disparity of cult is minimized by many trads - in comparison to other things not nearly as important!)

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    Did I do well, Telesphorus?
    « Reply #9 on: May 01, 2011, 09:16:46 PM »
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  • I don't know the full story here, so this may be a foolish question, but is there some reason she could not get married and go to college?  My wife and I met in college and our marriage and our children turned our fine.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir