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Online Ladislaus

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Re: Did Hell just freeze over?
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2022, 06:44:25 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 20, 2022, 07:35:43 PM
    XavierSemNishant sign back up under a new account ... or could it be RomanTheo?

    I’m getting warmer ... as this post got downvoted also.
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    Re: Did Hell just freeze over?
    « Reply #16 on: May 21, 2022, 07:10:10 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 20, 2022, 07:35:43 PM
    XavierSemNishant sign back up under a new account ... or could it be RomanTheo?
    Maybe it's Peℓσѕι! :laugh1:
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    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Re: Did Hell just freeze over?
    « Reply #17 on: May 21, 2022, 07:39:57 AM »
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    • I wonder when the last time Peℓσѕι's shadow darkened the inside of a Church to attend her Novus Ordo service.
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    Re: Did Hell just freeze over?
    « Reply #18 on: May 21, 2022, 12:48:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Donachie on May 20, 2022, 07:15:01 PM
    Is this a sort of excommunication?

    "Pope" Francis said more than once that the Church should stop focusing on things like abortion. Maybe he just made a mistake in pastoral judgment about his tongue, and he really is "pro-life" ... but not the life of the Traditional Latin mass for one.

    Anyway, a Maurice Pinay type blogger docuмented that Nancy Peℓσѕι's a Jєω, a marrano from Argentina in the D'Alessandro's, or the D'Alessandro marriage cycle, and that her husband is a Jєωιѕн real estate tycoon. This was some years ago, and where the blogger and his genealogical research went I don't know. I regret not copying the info to a file so others could look at it, and make their own judgments. I'm not a researcher like that. Somebody else can go look into it if they're up for it.

    How much does it really matter? I don't know. The country's already been steeped in a lot of liberalism for so long now that it's not easy to say. Anyway, I think the Jєωs run the USA, and so the social climate is affected, etc. That's how one can get an "Italian" "Catholic" mother like Peℓσѕι to say things like "abortion is sacred". To risk being honest, about offensive opinions at least, if Dugin's a Satanist, Peℓσѕι's not far behind.

    https://nypost.com/2022/03/24/nancy-Peℓσѕιs-husband-paul-buys-tesla-stock-worth-2-2m/
    https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/jerusalem-post-Peℓσѕιs-father-bucked-fdr-truman-aid-Jєωs-israel
    https://18doors.org/nancy_Peℓσѕιs_interfaith_family/

    Roger!

    Peℓσѕι is an Argentine Marrano-ess who’s family made their political fortunes pretending to be Catholic.

    The symbolism of this ban is all that matters.

    It is reminiscent of St. Pius V’s excommunication of the demonic Queen Elizabeth.
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    Re: Did Hell just freeze over?
    « Reply #19 on: May 21, 2022, 12:57:23 PM »
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    • I guess I offended a Peℓσѕι fan!  :laugh2:
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    Re: Did Hell just freeze over?
    « Reply #20 on: May 21, 2022, 01:30:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: Donachie on May 20, 2022, 07:15:01 PM
    …Anyway, a Maurice Pinay type blogger docuмented that Nancy Peℓσѕι's a Jєω, a marrano from Argentina in the D'Alessandro's, or the D'Alessandro marriage cycle, and that her husband is a Jєωιѕн real estate tycoon. …

    I have seen considerable speculation, but nothing I would call docuмentation that Peℓσѕι/D'Alessandro is a Jєω.

    Here is the most factual derogatory information I have seen about the family: https://www.winterwatch.net/2021/01/fbi-vault-on-Peℓσѕιs-politician-father-thomas-d-alesandro/
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    Re: Did Hell just freeze over?
    « Reply #21 on: May 21, 2022, 01:32:04 PM »
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    Re: Did Hell just freeze over?
    « Reply #22 on: May 21, 2022, 01:41:31 PM »
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    • Though he quotes part of Canon 915 ("Those … obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to Holy Communion.”) in his 20 May 2022 "Letter to the faithful on the Notification sent to Speaker Nancy Peℓσѕι", nowhere does the word "excommunicated" appear.
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    Please know that I find no pleasure whatsoever in fulfilling my pastoral duty here. [?] Speaker Peℓσѕι remains our sister in Christ. [Not if she's excommunicated!] Her advocacy for the care of the poor and vulnerable [which includes the unborn!!] elicits my admiration.
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    Perhaps he agree with canonist Ed Peters that "The case for applying Canon 1398 ['A person who procures a completed abortion incurs a latæ sententiæ excommunication.'] to politicians is very weak".

    Nor does it appear in his May 20, 2022, "Notification to the Speaker of the House of Representatives of the United States Congress Nancy Peℓσѕι".
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    Re: Did Hell just freeze over?
    « Reply #23 on: May 21, 2022, 02:15:48 PM »
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    • Cordileone is a Novus Ordo conservative. He professes to be "pro-life" and favors the Latin Mass. I believe he ignored Traditionis Custodes by continuing to say "Mass" (not sure if it was Novus Ordo or Tridentine) in Latin in his cathedral.

    Smells and bells modernism.
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    Re: Did Hell just freeze over?
    « Reply #24 on: May 21, 2022, 02:30:46 PM »
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    Re: Did Hell just freeze over?
    « Reply #25 on: May 21, 2022, 02:31:14 PM »
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    • Quote from: TKGS on May 21, 2022, 12:57:23 PM
    I guess I offended a Peℓσѕι fan!  :laugh2:
    Whoever it is, he/she is a coward. 
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    Re: Did Hell just freeze over?
    « Reply #26 on: May 21, 2022, 02:57:32 PM »
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    Re: Did Hell just freeze over?
    « Reply #27 on: May 21, 2022, 03:33:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: Geremia on May 21, 2022, 01:41:31 PM
    Perhaps he agree with canonist Ed Peters that "The case for applying Canon 1398 ['A person who procures a completed abortion incurs a latæ sententiæ excommunication.'] to politicians is very weak".


    Which is irrelevant, anyway. It's not just excommunicates who are barred from receiving Holy Communion, but all public sinners. And using one's public authority to give abortion the right of law is formal cooperation in the sin of abortion and a mortal sin against morality and against the duties of their office, and since the act is public, it follows that any politician who does this must be denied the sacraments according to Canon Law.
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    Re: Did Hell just freeze over?
    « Reply #28 on: May 21, 2022, 03:43:25 PM »
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    • Hey Bonaventure is that you? 
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    Re: Did Hell just freeze over?
    « Reply #29 on: May 21, 2022, 03:50:22 PM »
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    • Quote from: TKGS on May 21, 2022, 12:57:23 PM
    I guess I offended a Peℓσѕι fan!  :laugh2:
    And I must have offended a Cordileone fan. We seem to have a Novus Ordies on this thread. :laugh1:
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