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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Detraction - When are We Guilty?
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2021, 03:23:12 PM »
Quote from: 2Vermont on July 05, 2021, 01:47:13 PM
I would disagree with how things went down.  If one were to make a judgment based on the original post (accusation of pride), then it might be a "public" revelation about THAT post.  And, even so, one would need to interpret that same post the same way to make the same judgment (in fact, we have seen that a number of posters in the original thread that did NOT judge it the same way).

I would say that when someone refers to LT's POSTING HISTORY here, then that is at least detraction despite the fact that all of his posting history is technically "public".  Why?  Because there are many members and lurkers here, many new posters in fact, that may not be aware of "LT's posting history".  Heck, I've been here a long time and I am not aware of all of his posts.  So, in that sense, it was a revelation of a supposed hidden fault.

If we're all honest with ourselves, we know that none of us are blameless and none of our posting histories are spotless.  In fact, I suspect that each and every one of us are.....prideful at least at times.  

The whole matter is....ironic.
Fascinating that my post which tried to look at things objectively got thumbs down...why?
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Detraction - When are We Guilty?
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2021, 03:23:27 PM »
Quote from: 2Vermont on July 05, 2021, 03:20:35 PM
No, the issue started with Bonaventure's comments.

Uhm, no, you're conflating the issues.  Please see the citation Last Trad made in his OP.  That was in response to Matto's post and had nothing to do with Bonaventure.
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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Detraction - When are We Guilty?
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2021, 03:24:01 PM »
Quote from: bodeens on July 05, 2021, 03:02:29 PM
Case in point: I am a lurker and didn't think there was any reason to think he was being Pharasaical (I never saw and refuse to read what everyone is referring too) but now it's in my mind that there might be! I'm still not going to look up what people are referring to but it just shows that detraction is so easy.
Yup.
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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Detraction - When are We Guilty?
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2021, 03:26:07 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on July 05, 2021, 03:23:27 PM
Uhm, no, you're conflating the issues.  Please see the citation Last Trad made in his OP.  That was in response to Matto's post and had nothing to do with Bonaventure.
Since he was referencing the original thread, I gave my opinion of what happened in the whole thread.  Bonaventure was the person who LT charged with detraction.  There would be no issue with Matto's comments if Bonaventure didn't make his.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Detraction - When are We Guilty?
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2021, 03:29:00 PM »
You add to it the fact that there's a separation from the person's reputation due to the fake persona of "Last Tradhican" on the interwebs.  So the real person is not taking the hit to any kind of reputation.

Finally, I would agree that the sentiments regularly posted by Last Trad are in fact blameworthy, and a public rebuke may be in order.  I think a lot of service was done in bringing this type of Pharisaical attitude to light lest other Traditional Catholics slide into the mentality.  If he's publicly promoting these types of attitudes, then he can rightfully and justly be rebuked for them.

I've been called a lot worse here on CI, and the fact that Last Trad is being such a baby about it that he has to start an entire thread defending himself speaks to the veracity of the charges.  Last Trad, take this as an invitation to examine your conscience and then move along.
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