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Offline Vintagewife3

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Re: Detoxing feminist thinking
« Reply #60 on: January 07, 2019, 08:02:25 PM »
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  • So, what am I supposed to do with this in reguards to my husband? He doesn’t practice, and doesn’t believe everything the church says. I’m the one with the most education when it comes to the church, and why we can’t go to the NO mass even though I tried it with him. Where does that leave me when I’m trying to tell him that’s it’d be beneficial to his soul, and for the good of the family to start participating in religious activities? Is it wrong of me to do so? 


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    Re: Detoxing feminist thinking
    « Reply #61 on: January 07, 2019, 08:23:25 PM »
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  • So, what am I supposed to do with this in reguards to my husband? He doesn’t practice, and doesn’t believe everything the church says. I’m the one with the most education when it comes to the church, and why we can’t go to the NO mass even though I tried it with him. Where does that leave me when I’m trying to tell him that’s it’d be beneficial to his soul, and for the good of the family to start participating in religious activities? Is it wrong of me to do so?
    VW, I think you have already told him these things, like "it’d be beneficial to his soul, and for the good of the family", so now the next step is pray and beseech Our Lord, his Blessed Mother, his Guardian Angel, the saints, to intercede on your behalf.

    Also he will observe the changes practicing the faith and your prayer life have had on you. You have changed remarkably since you came here. If I can see it, he can see it so much more.

    The devil will be on the prowl in order to keep him away from God, so pray extra hard for his protection and enlightenment. Many men have been converted by Godly wives. Read the lives of the saints and read them to your children.
    Don't be too pushy/anxious with him. Pray, hope and Don't worry.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.


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    Re: Detoxing feminist thinking
    « Reply #62 on: January 08, 2019, 07:27:48 PM »
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  • I definitely think my plan of action is to just take charge of my and the children. This is a job best done quietly.I mean it took forever for Saint Rita’s husband to convert. If he can I do believe anyone can. Thank you for the support, Nadir!

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    Re: Detoxing feminist thinking
    « Reply #63 on: January 09, 2019, 09:15:55 AM »
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  • You could try treating him like a King.  Really treat him well during 2019 and make him feel respected.  He might take it for granted, but some men don't.  They enjoy the largese and feeling like a King and rewarding their wife.  He might find it strokes his ego to allow you to do they things you want, once he thinks it is him allowing them and not you nagging him.




    W[size=-1]IND[/size] and the Sun were disputing which was the stronger. Suddenly they saw a traveller coming down the road, and the Sun said: “I see a way to decide our dispute. Whichever of us can cause that traveller to take off his cloak shall be regarded as the stronger You begin.” So the Sun retired behind a cloud, and the Wind began to blow as hard as it could upon the traveller. But the harder he blew the more closely did the traveller wrap his cloak round him, till at last the Wind had to give up in despair. Then the Sun came out and shone in all his glory upon the traveller, who soon found it too hot to walk with his cloak on.

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    Re: Detoxing feminist thinking
    « Reply #64 on: January 09, 2019, 10:09:23 AM »
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  • That’s a good story for a situation like this! Very fitting! 


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    Re: Detoxing feminist thinking
    « Reply #65 on: January 09, 2019, 06:39:17 PM »
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  • Sign of a misspent youth.  Lots of reading.

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    Re: Detoxing feminist thinking
    « Reply #66 on: January 09, 2019, 07:04:36 PM »
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  • The definition of feminism from Wiki:

    “Feminism is a range of political movements, ideologies, and social movements that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve political, economic, personal, and social equality of sexes.[1][2] This includes seeking to establish educational and professional opportunities for women that are equal to those for men.“

    VW, if this is not your daily bread and butter and your beliefs are opposite of this statement then you’re not a feminist. Simple as that.
    This is how secular and leftist sources, such as Wikipedia, define feminism, trying to make it sound like a harmless and innocent thing.  It is clear enough what feminism actually is, if we look at what feminists do and say, rather than accept such definitions.
    Feminism is one piece of the cultural Marxism that dominates the West.  It involves seeing men as the oppressor class and women as the victim class.  And people are not judged by their individual beliefs and actions, but by what class they belong to.  To this way of thinking, men are always in the wrong, just like whites are always in the wrong.

    A major sign of feminist thinking is looking down on men as a group, seeing them as morally worse than woman.  For us married women, it tempts us not to give husbands the respect we owe them.  So that is one of the major areas to watch out for.

    So, what am I supposed to do with this in reguards to my husband? He doesn’t practice, and doesn’t believe everything the church says. I’m the one with the most education when it comes to the church, and why we can’t go to the NO mass even though I tried it with him. Where does that leave me when I’m trying to tell him that’s it’d be beneficial to his soul, and for the good of the family to start participating in religious activities? Is it wrong of me to do so?
    Pray, don't nag.  And remember to hold him in highest respect.

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    Re: Detoxing feminist thinking
    « Reply #67 on: January 09, 2019, 07:17:58 PM »
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  • I've actually been pondering this question, and after much reflection have come to the conclusion that it is in fact inappropriate for a woman to argue contentiously with men (including on a forum).

    So, for instance, I believe it wrong and contrary to nature for a girl to compete against a boy in physical competition ... for a variety of reasons that I'll elaborate upon.  I don't see why intellectual battles with men should be any different.

    Would you let your daughter play football against boys?  Of course not.  Girls should not be competitive directly with boys.  It's possible that you'd find a girl here or there who could compete well with boys (athletic and strong, etc.) ... but it's still inappropriate.  It harms both the boys and the girls involved.  And the boy is in an awkward position.  God designed boys to be chivalrous and respectful towards ladies.  So a girl is running at him carrying a football.  How does he react?  Does he hit her with everything he's got?  That's contrary to every male instinct implanted by God.  Does he then "pull his punches" and hold back?  In that case, he's hurting his team and not able to compete the way he's supposed to as a boy/man.

    JayneK, I recall once that you objected to how I battled with you, since you are a woman.  But if you were to get into a boxing ring with me and start punching me in the face, isn't that putting me in an unfair no-win situation?  I'm not supposed to hit a lady, of course, but then do I just stand there and take repeated blows to the face?  That also is unmanly to let yourself get beaten up.  So it puts a man into a position of having to do something unmanly.
    Thank you for offering your insights on this.  I'm getting the impression that this is not hypothetical and you feel that I have been virtually punching you in the face.  That was not my intention.  I think of a logical debate as comparable to game of chess.  It has rules that the opponents follow and does not involve any personal animosity. 

    But, if I am coming across as competitive and pugnacious, that is a real problem.  I will continue to think about this.


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    Re: Detoxing feminist thinking
    « Reply #68 on: January 09, 2019, 08:53:37 PM »
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  • This is how secular and leftist sources, such as Wikipedia, define feminism, trying to make it sound like a harmless and innocent thing.  It is clear enough what feminism actually is, if we look at what feminists do and say, rather than accept such definitions.
    Feminism is one piece of the cultural Marxism that dominates the West.  It involves seeing men as the oppressor class and women as the victim class.  And people are not judged by their individual beliefs and actions, but by what class they belong to.  To this way of thinking, men are always in the wrong, just like whites are always in the wrong.

    A major sign of feminist thinking is looking down on men as a group, seeing them as morally worse than woman.  For us married women, it tempts us not to give husbands the respect we owe them.  So that is one of the major areas to watch out for.
    Pray, don't nag.  And remember to hold him in highest respect.
    Feminism has damaged so many men, women and families over the years.  I agree, there is nothing harmless or innocent about it.
    Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle. 2Thessalonians 2:15

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    Re: Detoxing feminist thinking
    « Reply #69 on: January 10, 2019, 08:44:34 AM »
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  • There is a writer blogger called Aaron Clarey and I think he hits it right on the head about feminism. You can listen to him on YouTube. He is a vulgar at times so you'll need to put on a filter. 

    My favorite point he makes is that feminism drove women to work...that's it...to work. Think about it, it all says, go to work. Be a cubicle slave to get self-fulfillment. Commute to work for hours a week and work. Think about it. Feminism's is offering work.  :fryingpan:

    He argues that a lot of women buy into work and work until they can't have children or have children with great effort, i.e. feminism teaches women to deny a biological hard wiring until it is too late. And, if they do have kids as a cubicle slave, they outsource raising their children as a consequence. So, they give up the connection to their children in order to work.  :facepalm:

    In California, there is child care assistance paid for by the state and heard of a situation where a woman was working for $800 a month and getting $1200 for child care expenses. So, ultimately, it would have been better to pay her not to work! However, it is worse. She isn't at home nurturing her young one.  :heretic:

    All of this meshes well with Catholic teaching and what anecdote communicates to us.  :cheers:

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    Re: Detoxing feminist thinking
    « Reply #70 on: January 10, 2019, 09:16:20 AM »
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  • Sign of a misspent youth.  Lots of reading.
    Hahaha you, and I both. I miss having time to read through books. 


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    Re: Detoxing feminist thinking
    « Reply #71 on: January 10, 2019, 09:24:25 AM »
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  • I agree. Feminism goes so deep in our culture that it’s hard to see the damage even small things do. That’s why we have so many men trying to act like women, or be overly sensitive. It’s just not natural.... men already had a certain level of sensitivity towards their wives. So, there is no need for men to do it to the extent they do now. If the women in politics husbands would put them in their place we could start fixing the country. 


    Women, and men are not equals in anything. Brain power, physically, or emotionally. 



    I’ve noticed over the last week that the small changes I’m making are helping my family. So, I’m grateful, especially to the men here who have helped me realize the errors of my ways. I know I didn’t make it easy for them 😁


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    Re: Detoxing feminist thinking
    « Reply #72 on: January 10, 2019, 10:42:23 AM »
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    My favorite point he makes is that feminism drove women to work...that's it...to work.
    Feminists wanted to work for INDEPENDENCE, MONEY AND STATUS.  Ultimately, the purpose of working was to 1) leave the house and have status outside being a mother, 2) show they were equals with men in earning money, 3) to gain independence from the "oppressive" patriarchy.

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    Re: Detoxing feminist thinking
    « Reply #73 on: January 10, 2019, 04:23:28 PM »
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  • Feminists wanted to work for INDEPENDENCE, MONEY AND STATUS.  Ultimately, the purpose of working was to 1) leave the house and have status outside being a mother, 2) show they were equals with men in earning money, 3) to gain independence from the "oppressive" patriarchy.
    Ya, but you see just to work. What a low level achievement. Whoopee! You get to work. You get the rat race. You've converted your home into a sleeping mat and a mess facility by working. I mean really - do women or men really want to work? Is that the highest aim of feminism? Maybe the "glass ceiling" is a blessing - if there is a limit, it'll keep you from working. Let's work to live not live to work - feminism puts a woman on the track to work to live. More opportunities than ever, but who wants them? Why? Society speaks and makes us want things we wouldn't want otherwise. 

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    Re: Detoxing feminist thinking
    « Reply #74 on: January 10, 2019, 04:45:55 PM »
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  • Feminism is also around to make women the only gender be able to legally murder in cold blood. It’s not a group of people I want to associate with anymore.