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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: Derek Chauvin Conviction Now in Danger
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2021, 02:59:34 PM »
Quote from: Matto on May 04, 2021, 01:21:40 PM
Did you change your mind on the case? When the story first broke I thought you the first man on Cathinfo to condemn the cop? I know when the story broke I thought the cop was wrong too until I found out more about the case and that the man was overdosed on drugs.
What does that have to do with whether or not he received an impartial trial?
If I believe the cop killed him, it doesn’t make it ok to load the jury with biased jurors.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Derek Chauvin Conviction Now in Danger
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2021, 03:23:21 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson on May 04, 2021, 02:59:34 PM
What does that have to do with whether or not he received an impartial trial?
If I believe the cop killed him, it doesn’t make it ok to load the jury with biased jurors.

Personally, I think he was guilty of manslaughter mostly because of how he stayed on Floyd after he had become unresponsive and had passed out.  Until then, the "I can't breathe" wasn't necessarily worth much, since he was saying that before, when they were just asking him to get into the police car.  But after he passed out, one would think Chauvin would have gotten off and checked his vitals.  Nevertheless, his death was some combination of the drugs, his heart condition, and the force used.  Was the force used sufficient to cause death in a normal sober person?  No.  Would Floyd have died had he not been restrained that way?  Not sure, but perhaps not.

There's no doubt, however, that the outcome of the trial was predetermined ... and Chauvin did not get a fair trial.
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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: Derek Chauvin Conviction Now in Danger
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2021, 03:26:52 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on May 04, 2021, 03:23:21 PM
Personally, I think he was guilty of manslaughter mostly because of how he stayed on Floyd after he had become unresponsive and had passed out.  Until then, the "I can't breathe" wasn't necessarily worth much, since he was saying that before, when they were just asking him to get into the police car.  But after he passed out, one would think Chauvin would have gotten off and checked his vitals.  Nevertheless, his death was some combination of the drugs, his heart condition, and the force used.  Was the force used sufficient to cause death in a normal sober person?  No.  Would Floyd have died had he not been restrained that way?  Not sure, but perhaps not.

There's no doubt, however, that the outcome of the trial was predetermined ... and Chauvin did not get a fair trial.
My thoughts exactly.
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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Derek Chauvin Conviction Now in Danger
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2021, 03:40:13 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on May 04, 2021, 03:23:21 PM
Personally, I think he was guilty of manslaughter mostly because of how he stayed on Floyd after he had become unresponsive and had passed out.  Until then, the "I can't breathe" wasn't necessarily worth much, since he was saying that before, when they were just asking him to get into the police car.  But after he passed out, one would think Chauvin would have gotten off and checked his vitals.  Nevertheless, his death was some combination of the drugs, his heart condition, and the force used.  Was the force used sufficient to cause death in a normal sober person?  No.  Would Floyd have died had he not been restrained that way?  Not sure, but perhaps not.

There's no doubt, however, that the outcome of the trial was predetermined ... and Chauvin did not get a fair trial.
It looks like there is now some real evidence.  However, there was real evidence in the stolen election and we know how that turned out.... so.....I predict this conviction will stand no matter what.
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Offline Minnesota

Re: Derek Chauvin Conviction Now in Danger
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2021, 04:08:37 PM »
Future condolences to his house if this conviction gets overturned. 
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