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Offline SeanJohnson

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Derek Chauvin Conviction Now in Danger
« on: May 04, 2021, 12:59:59 PM »
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  • Derek Chauvin juror's 'BLM' T-shirt sparks concerns about trial verdicts: report
    Brandon Mitchell wore a Black Lives Matter T-shirt at a DC march that said 'Get your knee off our neck'
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    A photo that recently emerged online of a juror on the Derek Chauvin murder trial wearing a Black Lives Matter T-shirt has sparked questions about his impartiality, according to reports.

    Juror Brandon Mitchell, 31, who is Black, could be seen in the photo wearing the T-shirt emblazoned with a picture of Martin Luther King Jr. and the phrases "Get your knee off our neck" and "BLM." He is also wearing a "Black Lives Matter" hat in the photo.
    Mitchell was the first member of the jury that convicted Chauvin of murdering George Floyd to publicly comment about the trial.
    In a Monday interview with the Star Tribune, Mitchell said the photo is from a rally in Washington, DC, last summer commemorating MLK's famous 1963 "I have a dream" speech.

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    Mitchell told the newspaper his uncle had posted the photo to social media.
    The juror insisted the DC march had nothing to do with Floyd.

    "It was directly related to MLK's March on Washington from the '60s … The date of the March on Washington is the date," he told the newspaper.
    "I'd never been to DC," Mitchell said in explaining why he attended the rally.
    "The opportunity to go to DC, the opportunity to be around thousands and thousands of Black people; I just thought it was a good opportunity to be a part of something."

    During the jury selection process, each prospective juror is required to answer a questionnaire that includes questions about participation in demonstrations and protests.
    "Did you, or someone close to you, participate in any of the demonstrations or marches against police brutality that took place in Minneapolis after George Floyd's death?" one question read, according to the newspaper.
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    The other asked: "Other than what you have already described above, have you, or anyone close to you, participated in protests about police use of force or police brutality?"
    Mitchell told the Tribune that he replied "no" to both questions.
    "I think I was being extremely honest, for sure," Mitchell said of the jury selection process. "I gave my views on everything — on the case, on Black Lives Matter."

    Jury consultant Alan Tuerkheimer told the Washington Post that Mitchell's questionnaire answers could lead to an appeal by Chauvin’s attorney. The judge could also call Mitchell in for questioning, Tuerkheimer said.
    "That could change the outcome of things; if there is anything that makes him seem that he was not forthcoming, it could be an avenue for the judge to reconsider the case," Tuerkheimer told the newspaper.
    Meanwhile, civil rights attorney Brian Dunn told the Washington Post that the photo is "undeniably suggestive of a possible bias in this juror."

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    Dunn said a more detailed review would be needed to determine if Mitchell "lied about, or failed to provide complete answers on whether he has engaged in public activism."
    "If it is determined that the juror did not provide full disclosure to the defense, the question then becomes whether this lack of candor violated Mr. Chauvin's right to a fair trial," Dunn said.
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    Offline SeanJohnson

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    Re: Derek Chauvin Conviction Now in Danger
    « Reply #1 on: May 04, 2021, 01:04:42 PM »
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  • He said:

    "The opportunity to go to DC, the opportunity to be around thousands and thousands of Black people; I just thought it was a good opportunity to be a part of something."

    Question:

    Is it a problem if I want to go somewhere to ”be around thousands and thousands of white people?”
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    Re: Derek Chauvin Conviction Now in Danger
    « Reply #2 on: May 04, 2021, 01:06:03 PM »
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  • I’m not sure why anyone would think having a black BLM supporter on the jury would in any way affect impartiality.  :facepalm:
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    Re: Derek Chauvin Conviction Now in Danger
    « Reply #3 on: May 04, 2021, 01:21:40 PM »
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  • I’m not sure why anyone would think having a black BLM supporter on the jury would in any way affect impartiality.  :facepalm:
    Did you change your mind on the case? When the story first broke I thought you the first man on Cathinfo to condemn the cop? I know when the story broke I thought the cop was wrong too until I found out more about the case and that the man was overdosed on drugs.
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    Re: Derek Chauvin Conviction Now in Danger
    « Reply #4 on: May 04, 2021, 02:39:15 PM »
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  • He said:

    "The opportunity to go to DC, the opportunity to be around thousands and thousands of Black people; I just thought it was a good opportunity to be a part of something."

    Question:

    Is it a problem if I want to go somewhere to ”be around thousands and thousands of white people?”
    To ask the question is to answer it.  Every other race and ethnicity in the world, aside from those of white European descent, are allowed to exult in that ineffable joy of "being around people like me in large numbers". 

    Yes, I know they're Novus Ordo to the bone (partially due to hero worship of JPII), but that is one sense I got in Poland at my niece's first communion.  Throngs of people filled the streets, all on their way to Mass, the children all dressed in uniform albs (they do this so that the families won't have to spend money on first communion clothes), everyone is Catholic, a sea of Slavic and Germanic humanity, blond, brunet, redhead, something too beautiful to put into words.

    It was also much the same in Belgium when I was at the train station in Ghent waiting on a connection.  I looked around me and said "these people look like me, I'm where I belong, I'm home".  (I have no known Flemish blood, but it's only 60 miles from England, we're all basically the same race.)

    How toxically racist.  Excuse me while I go check my privilege and repent of my micro-aggressions.

    (Full disclosure: my other niece is a fashion model in Poland.  Not patently immoral in itself, but I'd like to see her get in another line of work.  Too much potential for trouble.)


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    Re: Derek Chauvin Conviction Now in Danger
    « Reply #5 on: May 04, 2021, 02:59:34 PM »
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  • Did you change your mind on the case? When the story first broke I thought you the first man on Cathinfo to condemn the cop? I know when the story broke I thought the cop was wrong too until I found out more about the case and that the man was overdosed on drugs.
    What does that have to do with whether or not he received an impartial trial?
    If I believe the cop killed him, it doesn’t make it ok to load the jury with biased jurors.
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    Re: Derek Chauvin Conviction Now in Danger
    « Reply #6 on: May 04, 2021, 03:23:21 PM »
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  • What does that have to do with whether or not he received an impartial trial?
    If I believe the cop killed him, it doesn’t make it ok to load the jury with biased jurors.

    Personally, I think he was guilty of manslaughter mostly because of how he stayed on Floyd after he had become unresponsive and had passed out.  Until then, the "I can't breathe" wasn't necessarily worth much, since he was saying that before, when they were just asking him to get into the police car.  But after he passed out, one would think Chauvin would have gotten off and checked his vitals.  Nevertheless, his death was some combination of the drugs, his heart condition, and the force used.  Was the force used sufficient to cause death in a normal sober person?  No.  Would Floyd have died had he not been restrained that way?  Not sure, but perhaps not.

    There's no doubt, however, that the outcome of the trial was predetermined ... and Chauvin did not get a fair trial.

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    Re: Derek Chauvin Conviction Now in Danger
    « Reply #7 on: May 04, 2021, 03:26:52 PM »
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  • Personally, I think he was guilty of manslaughter mostly because of how he stayed on Floyd after he had become unresponsive and had passed out.  Until then, the "I can't breathe" wasn't necessarily worth much, since he was saying that before, when they were just asking him to get into the police car.  But after he passed out, one would think Chauvin would have gotten off and checked his vitals.  Nevertheless, his death was some combination of the drugs, his heart condition, and the force used.  Was the force used sufficient to cause death in a normal sober person?  No.  Would Floyd have died had he not been restrained that way?  Not sure, but perhaps not.

    There's no doubt, however, that the outcome of the trial was predetermined ... and Chauvin did not get a fair trial.
    My thoughts exactly.
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    Re: Derek Chauvin Conviction Now in Danger
    « Reply #8 on: May 04, 2021, 03:40:13 PM »
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  • Personally, I think he was guilty of manslaughter mostly because of how he stayed on Floyd after he had become unresponsive and had passed out.  Until then, the "I can't breathe" wasn't necessarily worth much, since he was saying that before, when they were just asking him to get into the police car.  But after he passed out, one would think Chauvin would have gotten off and checked his vitals.  Nevertheless, his death was some combination of the drugs, his heart condition, and the force used.  Was the force used sufficient to cause death in a normal sober person?  No.  Would Floyd have died had he not been restrained that way?  Not sure, but perhaps not.

    There's no doubt, however, that the outcome of the trial was predetermined ... and Chauvin did not get a fair trial.
    It looks like there is now some real evidence.  However, there was real evidence in the stolen election and we know how that turned out.... so.....I predict this conviction will stand no matter what.
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    Re: Derek Chauvin Conviction Now in Danger
    « Reply #9 on: May 04, 2021, 04:08:37 PM »
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  • Future condolences to his house if this conviction gets overturned. 
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