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I think it would be a benefit for those who converted to EO or are on the fence to hear the truth about the matter. Often I think debates are for persuading the audience, not the opponent. Dyer being a perceived authority for the online apologists have led many men away from Tradition, using the conciliar church as a strawman and saying "their grass is greener." He's built his reputation by defeating ill-prepared debaters, much like Ben Shapiro.

I've come across a few sneaky online EO apologists in the YouTube comment sections avoiding direct questions. The one group tries to lure you into a discord server to dog-pile you, getting you away from the main chat.

I’ve never actually heard this distinction in Orthodoxy, I’ve never heard of someone saying the novus ordo is invalid but the traditional rites are valid

the debate as far as I understand it is if you can actually have sacraments or sacramental grace outside the Church to begin with.  in my experience, those who say no usually say no, just across-the-board. 

and to preempt the possible question of whether this belief is donatism, I don’t think so because from what I understand donatism is denying that unworthy ministers IN the church have valid sacraments.  The sacraments of schismatics (which from the EO perspective would be the papacy in general whether novus ordo, sede, or whatever in between grade), would be a separate question


tbh I don’t have a huge dog in the fight myself; im more than willing to admit I just don’t know; but I’ve seen people with very strong opinions on both sides

Comparing the thousand plus year old RC vs EO debate to those new cults is kinda lazy imo, and I would say the same to any EO who said that about RC

to be clear I’m not a particularly massive fan of Dyer, I’ve listened to him a little bit and I like some of his ideas but I agree he can be obnoxious and I think in general focus on personal piety is better for most people than apologetics.  And as far as it goes I prefer Craig Truglia over Dyer.


but I think the comparison here is just weak