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Offline jman123

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« on: January 19, 2012, 03:16:24 PM »
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  • Many people criticize us trads for breeding like cockroaches.

     When you have your 4th child people say," when are you going to stop having children?"

       people in Saint Mary's,KS  says we are a cult that we Are rude and dress as if on the Little House on the Prairie.

     They say that all they see in town are moms pushing strollers and a swarm of children around.

      What are the answers to these criticisms?


    Offline Graham

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    « Reply #1 on: January 19, 2012, 03:52:31 PM »
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  • Those aren't criticisms, those are insults. Tell them, with an air of quiet amusement, that they better start having more kids themselves or pretty soon everyone in Saint Mary's will be Traditional Catholic.


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    « Reply #2 on: January 19, 2012, 03:54:00 PM »
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  • Those criticisms come from the devil. The Catholic Church has always valued life, which is why Traditional Catholic families (and even some Novus Ordo families) tend to have alot of children. The modern world, on the other hand, thinks of children as a burden, as sort of getting in the way. I once heard a Protestant woman say "I can't imagine why anyone would want to have more than two kids". That is the belief of most Protestants and other non-Catholics. It's quite sad.

    The modern world also advocates immodest dressing, and mocks those who dress modestly. I once heard a great sermon from a Traditional priest who said "Women who dress seductively think it makes them beautiful...when actually, it does not make then beautiful. It makes them instruments of the devil". So this new "style" of clothing today is obviously from the devil.

    I can't help but chuckle a bit at the Protestants who say we are a cult because we follow the Pope or for whatever reason they give. Well, when you think about, the Protestant Reformation was a cult because they followed Martin Luther, an evil man who broke away from the Church to form his own church according to his own heretical beliefs. So yeah, it's the Protestants who are involved in a cult.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

    Offline Telesphorus

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    « Reply #3 on: January 19, 2012, 04:00:15 PM »
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    Many people criticize us trads for breeding like cockroaches.

     When you have your 4th child people say," when are you going to stop having children?"

       people in Saint Mary's,KS  says we are a cult that we Are rude and dress as if on the Little House on the Prairie.

     They say that all they see in town are moms pushing strollers and a swarm of children around.

      What are the answers to these criticisms?


    Those people in St. Mary's who don't like the SSPX don't seem to be very bright, but it does seem they have been provoked.

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    « Reply #4 on: January 19, 2012, 05:30:44 PM »
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    Many people criticize us trads for breeding like cockroaches.

    When you have your 4th child people say," when are you going to stop having children?"

    [....]

    What are the answers to these criticisms?


    Parents who are criticized for having "too many" children* can answer by saying that they are merely trying to follow God's will in being faithful to their vocation as Catholic parents, and corresponding to the graces of the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony.

    Only a perverted and evil society can debase marriage to the extent of making paternity and maternity a peripheral or even superfluous consideration, if children are at all in the equation. The abhorrent and gross absurdities of leftist advocates of "marriage rights"** for ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are the legitimate consequences of such erroneous opinions.

    Culpably childless married couples will be severely punished even in this life, when in old age all they have are irrational creatures to comfort their disturbed consciences (that is, assuming they still have a remnant of the notion of guilt) in face of the imminent approach of death.

    Whilst those spouses who were faithful to the graces of Holy Matrimony and accepted the children God deigned in His ineffable loving-kindness to vouchsafe them, will have a future full of the joys of being parents and grandparents (and, perhaps, even great-grandparents).


    *"Too many children" - what an obscene thing to say, and how noxious and impious it is to the ears of Catholics who know the sanctity and dignity of Holy Matrimony and the Catholic family!

    **There is not such thing as "marriage" for ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs: the idea is as impious as it is absurd. No right-thinking mind would consent to such a violation of the laws of nature and logic.

    Please ignore all that I have written regarding sedevacantism.


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    « Reply #5 on: January 19, 2012, 06:03:01 PM »
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  • Quote from: jman123
    Many people criticize us trads for breeding like cockroaches.

     When you have your 4th child people say," when are you going to stop having children?"

       people in Saint Mary's,KS  says we are a cult that we Are rude and dress as if on the Little House on the Prairie.

     They say that all they see in town are moms pushing strollers and a swarm of children around.

      What are the answers to these criticisms?


    These are trivial concerns.  There is nothing to worry about if people think dumb stuff like that.  It's only worthy of laughing about, and being grateful for being so blessed.

     :cheers:

    PS: rake your yard! LOL!

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    « Reply #6 on: January 19, 2012, 06:14:45 PM »
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    Many people criticize us trads for breeding like cockroaches.

     When you have your 4th child people say," when are you going to stop having children?"

       people in Saint Mary's,KS  says we are a cult that we Are rude and dress as if on the Little House on the Prairie.

     They say that all they see in town are moms pushing strollers and a swarm of children around.

      What are the answers to these criticisms?


    Keeping in mind the fact that such people believe that they occupy the moral high ground, a good response would be this:

    "Too many children? How many should I have? No more than two, eh? Fine. Here's a knife. Now kill my excess children. What? You don't want to kill them? You just wish they'd never been born? And you just wish I wouldn't have more? Yours is a murderous spirit. No, you don't occupy the moral high ground. Not at all."
    Age, thou art shamed.*
    O shame, where is thy blush?**

    -Shakespeare, Julius Caesar,* Hamlet**

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    « Reply #7 on: January 19, 2012, 07:43:40 PM »
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    Many people criticize us trads for breeding like cockroaches.

     When you have your 4th child people say," when are you going to stop having children?"

       people in Saint Mary's,KS  says we are a cult that we Are rude and dress as if on the Little House on the Prairie.

     They say that all they see in town are moms pushing strollers and a swarm of children around.

      What are the answers to these criticisms?


    Keeping in mind the fact that such people believe that they occupy the moral high ground, a good response would be this:

    "Too many children? How many should I have? No more than two, eh? Fine. Here's a knife. Now kill my excess children. What? You don't want to kill them? You just wish they'd never been born? And you just wish I wouldn't have more? Yours is a murderous spirit. No, you don't occupy the moral high ground. Not at all."


    Hey Jitspring, welcome back brother. Good to see you could make it back here.


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    « Reply #8 on: January 19, 2012, 11:50:47 PM »
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    Many people criticize us trads for breeding like cockroaches.

     When you have your 4th child people say," when are you going to stop having children?"

       people in Saint Mary's,KS  says we are a cult that we Are rude and dress as if on the Little House on the Prairie.

     They say that all they see in town are moms pushing strollers and a swarm of children around.

      What are the answers to these criticisms?


    Keeping in mind the fact that such people believe that they occupy the moral high ground, a good response would be this:

    "Too many children? How many should I have? No more than two, eh? Fine. Here's a knife. Now kill my excess children. What? You don't want to kill them? You just wish they'd never been born? And you just wish I wouldn't have more? Yours is a murderous spirit. No, you don't occupy the moral high ground. Not at all."


    Hey Jitspring, welcome back brother. Good to see you could make it back here.


    Thank you. Nice to be back.  :cheers:
    Age, thou art shamed.*
    O shame, where is thy blush?**

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    « Reply #9 on: January 20, 2012, 09:38:02 AM »
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  • Yes jitpring, welcome back. :cheers:
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #10 on: January 20, 2012, 09:54:37 AM »
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    Many people criticize us trads for breeding like cockroaches.

     When you have your 4th child people say," when are you going to stop having children?"

       people in Saint Mary's,KS  says we are a cult that we Are rude and dress as if on the Little House on the Prairie.

     They say that all they see in town are moms pushing strollers and a swarm of children around.

      What are the answers to these criticisms?


    "We are sorry that you are aborting and contracepting yourselves into oblivion."


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    « Reply #11 on: January 20, 2012, 05:07:47 PM »
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  • Welcome back, Jitpring!  :farmer:
    Please ignore all that I have written regarding sedevacantism.

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    « Reply #12 on: January 20, 2012, 08:03:41 PM »
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  • People who say such things are carnally and material minded. They cannot understand living for something or someone other then themselves.


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    « Reply #13 on: January 21, 2012, 12:05:00 AM »
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    People who say such things are carnally and material minded. They cannot understand living for something or someone other then themselves.



    The guy goes by the name "Redneck."  He's clearly trying to get a rise out of people.


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    « Reply #14 on: February 03, 2012, 04:53:27 PM »
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  •  I think you should smile and tell them the joys you have in having children and a family and how grateful you are.

     One thing most trads deserve to be criticized for is bitterness, hate and lack of charity. Better to show a smile in response than feed into their hate!