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Very interesting. It says the 3rd secret of Fatima forecasts a more Christian Russia will be the one to fight the enemy of God. Is that not the new Russia? Fighting against the now evils of western Europe and America that are the anti-christs now.

One thing mentioned in this video is that oceans will flood the Earth. There is a long historical prediction that Ireland will go under the sea. Recently, Puitin said one atomic bomb in the seas near England could cause a tsunami that would cover and destroy all of England. Doesn't that mean Ireland will be washed out of it as well.

Anyway, there is plenty to comment on after watching this video. I look forward to your view.


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Malachi Martin is a con artist and a liar. He said he was in the 1958 conclave and knows what happened in there. This is false because everyone who is inside any conclave, from the Cardinal Camerlengo down to the janitor and wait staff, are all listed in the AAS, the official mouthpiece of the Church. You can look up the list of everyone who is in that conclave, and Martin's name is not in the list.

There's no reason to believe he ever read the 3rd Secret of Fatima either.


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Recently, Puitin said one atomic bomb in the seas near England could cause a tsunami that would cover and destroy all of England.

I heard of him saying that in regards to the Eastern Seaboard of the US, as well, but I couldn't confirm he actually said that, I don't think. Also, that idea is pretty laughable. I mean, technically, sure it's possible but it would take a whole lot more than 1 nuke, even a Tsar Bomba. It's simply not realistic.
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I heard of him saying that in regards to the Eastern Seaboard of the US, as well, but I couldn't confirm he actually said that, I don't think. Also, that idea is pretty laughable. I mean, technically, sure it's possible but it would take a whole lot more than 1 nuke, even a Tsar Bomba. It's simply not realistic.
Naval News, almost one year ago:

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Russia’s New ‘Poseidon’ Super-Weapon: What You Need To Know
 Posesidon nuclear torpedo cutaway

Russia has raised tensions further by placing its nuclear forces on higher alert, termed "special regime of combat duty". We take a closer look at one of its most controversial weapons. Among a myriad of new and impressive 'super weapons', Poseidon stands out.
H I Sutton 03 Mar 2022
As Russia ratchets up the nuclear threat over the past few days, following their invasion of Ukraine, one of the weapons on people’s minds is Poseidon. This nuclear ‘mega torpedo’ is unique in the history of the world.

Despite speculation, we do not believe that Poseidon has been deployed. The system is not yet ready. But it does raise concerns for nuclear stability in the near future. It changes the shape of nuclear deterrence and will become one of Russia’s most feared weapons.

Poseidon is an ‘Intercontinental Nuclear-Powered Nuclear-Armed Autonomous Torpedo’. It is a giant torpedo which can hit coastal cities with devastating results. Compared to an intercontinental ballistic missile it is very slow, but possibly unstoppable.

Russia maintains that it can also be used as a tactical nuclear weapon against warships. High-value targets would include aircraft carriers. This is harder to rationalize than the second-strike nuclear deterrence role, but it is a constant theme. Ever since it was first revealed in November 2015, then known as Status-6. it has been described as a multirole system.

The weapon’s expected speed, around 70 knots, is fast enough to make it realistically uncatchable to existing torpedoes. And its operating depths, perhaps as deep as 1,000 meters (3,300 feet) puts it beyond reach. Western planners will have to develop new weapons to intercept it. And that will take considerable time and investment.

A nuclear reactor gives the weapon essentially unlimited range. This gives it new levels of operational flexibility in terms of launch and target locations. Although it is restricted to at-sea or coastal targets, such as New York, Los Angeles. It can be launched from under the protection of the ice cap, or from coastal waters.

In reality the reactor is likely to be built for limited usage however. It does not appear that it is intended for sustained use, which will shape the way it can be used. This fits with it being a weapon, shot in anger. rather than a prototypical underwater drone.

Although the weapon is large, we estimate in the region of 100 tons, it is still small by nuclear submarine standards. It uses direct drive from the steam turbine, via gearing, to the pumpjet. The small diameter does not appear to allow for any significant quietening so the craft will not be particularly stealthy. Additionally there is minimal shielding so it may leave a trail of radiopacity. This could be a factor in tracking it, especially during trails.

The shielding also raises the that the reactor would not be run while the weapon is aboard the submarine. This would require additional shielding to protect the crew.
Myths And Misconceptions About Poseidon
Perhaps because so little is known about the weapon there has been a lot of speculation. And because it is a completely new category of weapon there is no previous system to borrow interpretations from. This contributes to popular misconceptions. However we have been following development since before 2015 and have narrowed down many aspects.

The system is not a direct development of the unbuilt T-15 mega-torpedo from the 1950s. That was a weapon some Russian planners expected to be carried by submarines to attack ports. It had a nuclear warhead but regular propulsion, meaning that it was quite short ranged. Which similar in scale and armament, the two are separated by both years and doctrine.

Poseidon is a weapon. Although its incredible range requires autonomy, it is not a drone in the same sense as other uncrewed underwater vehicles. There are no signs of buoyancy control or surveillance systems, so it is not an intelligence asset.

Another myth is that it is supercavitating, like the famous VA-111 Shkval torpedo. This would allow it to travel extremely fast, at over 100 knots. Supercavitation works by creating bubbles at the nose and then riding inside the bubble created to reduce friction. These weapons require rocket propulsion and extra-large control surfaces which must be outside the bubble. Poseidon has none of this.


And it is designed to be carried by a submarine in a sealed tube. These submarines are incredibly expensive and are a massive investment for the Russian Navy. This suggests that it is not designed to be forward-deployed as a mine, waiting to detonate in an enemy port.


Initial Russian media reports of a 100 megaton ‘tsunami bomb’ and/or a cobalt salted fallout bomb appear unreliable. More recent estimates are 2 megatons. The warhead may be a variable-power type.
Poseidon’s Day Will Come
Poseidon is a completely new category of weapon. It will reshape naval planning in both Russia and the West, leading to new requirements and new counter-weapons. A weapon which cannot be nullified with anti-missile defenses. In future nuclear tensions, if we live through this one, it will be a strong factor.

But we are not there yet. As of today none of the submarines to carry it are operational. One test submarine, Sarov which can carry a single round, is in service. Another boat, Belgorod, is not yet commissioned. It could be speculated that Russia could attempt a launch if desperate enough. But it is currently nowhere near the threat level of traditional submarine launched missiles.

Poseidon’s day will come.



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Naval News, almost one year ago:

 Naval News

Russia’s New ‘Poseidon’ Super-Weapon: What You Need To Know
 Posesidon nuclear torpedo cutaway

Initial Russian media reports of a 100 megaton ‘tsunami bomb’ and/or a cobalt salted fallout bomb appear unreliable. More recent estimates are 2 megatons.

I rest my case. It's just a regular bomb that's being hyped up by a defense industry that makes it's money on hype and fear mongering.
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Thanks Cera. So I needn't worry about that tsunami wave for a while.

'Initial Russian media reports of a 100 megaton ‘tsunami bomb’ and/or a cobalt salted fallout bomb appear unreliable. More recent estimates are 2 megatons. The warhead may be a variable-power type.

Poseidon’s Day Will Come
Poseidon is a completely new category of weapon. It will reshape naval planning in both Russia and the West, leading to new requirements and new counter-weapons. A weapon which cannot be nullified with anti-missile defenses. In future nuclear tensions, if we live through this one, it will be a strong factor.'

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I heard of him saying that in regards to the Eastern Seaboard of the US, as well, but I couldn't confirm he actually said that, I don't think. Also, that idea is pretty laughable. I mean, technically, sure it's possible but it would take a whole lot more than 1 nuke, even a Tsar Bomba. It's simply not realistic.
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Agreed. I'm not an expert on atomic bombs, but this sounds like it would be a stretch even for the plot of a summer blockbuster disaster movie. :laugh1::popcorn:

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I rest my case. It's just a regular bomb that's being hyped up by a defense industry that makes it's money on hype and fear mongering.

What?  You're proven wrong.  Poseidon missile could submerge England by creating an artificial tsunami.  Alois Irlmaier predict that England would be submerged by a bomb dropped  by the Russians.


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What?  You're proven wrong.  Poseidon missile could submerge England by creating an artificial tsunami.  Alois Irlmaier predict that England would be submerged by a bomb dropped  by the Russians.

How am I proven wrong?? The bomb is 2 megatons. You need a lot more energy than what's released by a 2 megaton bomb to generate a tsunami that can submerge a country.
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Note the word estimate. We don't know what the Russians intend to use, but even a small tsunami would be a disaster. It has long been proven by the US Navy that underwater nuclear detonations produce a huge amount of radioactive water. It would be a calamity for all of Europe long enough to kill millions of people for different reasons.

I don't believe Alois Irlmaier has as much reliability as conspiracy circles maintain, but it is difficult to find English information on his supposed failures. That said, it is interesting that such a specific prediction exists alongside the weapon in question. Very curious.

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Note the word estimate. We don't know what the Russians intend to use, but even a small tsunami would be a disaster. It has long been proven by the US Navy that underwater nuclear detonations produce a huge amount of radioactive water. It would be a calamity for all of Europe long enough to kill millions of people for different reasons.

I don't believe Alois Irlmaier has as much reliability as conspiracy circles maintain, but it is difficult to find English information on his supposed failures. That said, it is interesting that such a specific prediction exists alongside the weapon in question. Very curious.

Those radioactive particled would be quickly diluted...

Something can be radioactive, but that covers everything from slightly above background, to inevitable death. The US Navy is likely being misleading; it's subreption. Radiation also doesn't last as long as people think. It's highly dependent on many different factors, but generally most environments aren't exactly favorable to radiation, and the particles themselves also decay.

Unless people manage to drink seawater directly from some stream of irradiated seawater or eat some fish that were closer to the bomb (they'd be dead anyway), it's not going to really do anything. Freshwater flows into the ocean. I guess if there are desalination plants, then that water might be an issue. Maybe. And if an enemy would detonate a bunch of nukes close to Britain so that the radiation would be more likely to affect them, then why would they simply bomb its landmass directly with dirty bombs??
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What?  You're proven wrong.  Poseidon missile could submerge England by creating an artificial tsunami.  Alois Irlmaier predict that England would be submerged by a bomb dropped  by the Russians.
Dropped by a plane, right? I wonder how the plane would make it that far. Perhaps the plane could carry a larger warhead than the 2Mt estimated torpedo. Alois said the coastal cities would be submerged along the english channel, right? Not the whole country of England?
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The US Navy is likely being misleading; it's subreption.
Harmless Russia and the US Navy are probably liars. Yes, we've certainly heard this story before on CathInfo. The radiation info, too.

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Agreed. I'm not an expert on atomic bombs, but this sounds like it would be a stretch even for the plot of a summer blockbuster disaster movie. :laugh1::popcorn:
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Agreed. I'm not an expert on atomic bombs, but this sounds like it would be a stretch even for the plot of a summer blockbuster disaster movie. :laugh1::popcorn:
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