Wondering if anyone here has experience with bein married to someone who doesn't agree contraception is a sin,since I converted a yea ago my bette half doesn't have the same views, anyone here believe natural family planning is not a sin?

Better talk to a trad priest about this.  I'm guessing they would approve of it, if you can convince your spouse not to use birth control pills.

Remember though that mutual abstinence is not only mutually agreed upon but can be broken off at any time by the demand of either spouse.

I was in the same situation, I don't know if you are male or female. I had a medical reason for needing to postpone pregnancy. My former husband was not on board with abstaining, so we just  had a normal married life. I conceived twice and unfortunately miscarried both times.

One time the dr had prescribed medication for dysmenorrhea , he picked up from the pharmacy at his work work, when I saw it was birth control pills, I refused to take it, he was upset because he spent the co-pay on it, it was one of the few times I outright disobeyed him. The other was when he refused to take our son to the ER room when he was having difficulty breathing, so I called a taxi.

I wasn't Catholic at the time but fortunately had learned that contraception was a sin and how birth control pills causes abortions. As much as I disagree with the Kippley's attitdue towards "planning" children and having an obligation at times to use NFP, their work did give me some confidence to say no to healthcare providers.

It was a difficult position to be in, with a husband that had little regard for my well being, while trying to tell the healthcare providers I wouldn't use artificial contraception. I remember once the dr called him back into his office, and he explained to him that we should wait to get pregnant again. I was actually already pregnant at the time but didn't know it, and my former husband said He thought it was something important. I was so humiliated, I made a comment on a frame the dr had on display.

Another time after I had already been treated for injuries I had taken out a protective order (we had reconciled after that) I was pregnant and needed a referral to a high risk obstetrician. The nurse practioner was pressuring me so much to have an abortion, she was refusing to give me a referral. It's hard psychologically to stand up to someone especially an authority figure like a healthcare provider. At the end she was So like what are we going to do, I was so upset from her pressure I could hardly speak becuase I was ready to start crying but I said We are going to have a baby. It's really hard, and you can have no support from anywhere.

 If I was a man though and my wife was on birth control pills I would completely abstain because that could be murder.

Wondering if anyone here has experience with bein married to someone who doesn't agree contraception is a sin,since I converted a yea ago my bette half doesn't have the same views, anyone here believe natural family planning is not a sin?

I have seen statements from popes before Vatican II that support NFP under specific conditions.  I think it is commonly done in a sinful way now but is not intrinsically sinful.  I think that Tele is right.  You should talk to a traditional priest and I suspect that he would approve it in this situation.

I wasn't Catholic at the time but fortunately had learned that contraception was a sin and how birth control pills causes abortions.

If you don't mind my asking, how did you conclude that contraception is immoral before becoming a Catholic?  That is commendable but unusual.  

I am glad you are out of such an abusive situation, and sorry you had to go through it.  

Your wife is using contraception! I would tell her no real Catholic can use contraception and be saved.

She's aware but I can't change her mind, I asked my priest and he mentioned family planning, my wife wants no part of it and personally I believe that to be a sin also since we still would be having relations while trying to avoid having more children.all I think I can do now is do my business, contraception is never full proof so if God wants me to have more children the possibility will still be there.
 

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Wondering if anyone here has experience with bein married to someone who doesn't agree contraception is a sin,since I converted a yea ago my bette half doesn't have the same views, anyone here believe natural family planning is not a sin?

Better talk to a trad priest about this.  I'm guessing they would approve of it, if you can convince your spouse not to use birth control pills.

Remember though that mutual abstinence is not only mutually agreed upon but can be broken off at any time by the demand of either spouse.

To be clear we will not be abstinent, she will use whatever contraception she decides on, but for arguement sake wouldn't that be a sin also if we were abstinent in order to avoid having children? on a different topic i would like to ask... I know masturbation is a mortal  sin but would  that also include  if your significant other is doing the act....I'm pretty sure the answer is yes but would like confirmation...

I believe Tele was speaking of a situation where contraception is not being used.

Your wife can touch you however but it's a sin for you to climax outside of her body.

To answer about them both being sinful.  Contraception is against natural law and using it is a grave sin. The Church allows for abstinence.


http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/pius_xi/encyclicals/docuмents/hf_p-xi_enc_31121930_casti-connubii_en.html


53. And now, Venerable Brethren, we shall explain in detail the evils opposed to each of the benefits of matrimony. First consideration is due to the offspring, which many have the boldness to call the disagreeable burden of matrimony and which they say is to be carefully avoided by married people not through virtuous continence (which Christian law permits in matrimony when both parties consent) but by frustrating the marriage act. Some justify this criminal abuse on the ground that they are weary of children and wish to gratify their desires without their consequent burden. Others say that they cannot on the one hand remain continent nor on the other can they have children because of the difficulties whether on the part of the mother or on the part of family circuмstances.

54. But no reason, however grave, may be put forward by which anything intrinsically against nature may become conformable to nature and morally good. Since, therefore, the conjugal act is destined primarily by nature for the begetting of children, those who in exercising it deliberately frustrate its natural power and purpose sin against nature and commit a deed which is shameful and intrinsically vicious.




59. Holy Church knows well that not infrequently one of the parties is sinned against rather than sinning, when for a grave cause he or she reluctantly allows the perversion of the right order. In such a case, there is no sin, provided that, mindful of the law of charity, he or she does not neglect to seek to dissuade and to deter the partner from sin. Nor are those considered as acting against nature who in the married state use their right in the proper manner although on account of natural reasons either of time or of certain defects, new life cannot be brought forth. For in matrimony as well as in the use of the matrimonial rights there are also secondary ends, such as mutual aid, the cultivating of mutual love, and the quieting of concupiscence which husband and wife are not forbidden to consider so long as they are subordinated to the primary end and so long as the intrinsic nature of the act is preserved

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Your wife is using contraception! I would tell her no real Catholic can use contraception and be saved.

She's aware but I can't change her mind, I asked my priest and he mentioned family planning, my wife wants no part of it and personally I believe that to be a sin also since we still would be having relations while trying to avoid having more children.all I think I can do now is do my business, contraception is never full proof so if God wants me to have more children the possibility will still be there.
 

If she won't agree to use NFP, what about asking her to take a course? People often have misconceptions about it. I know the risk with this is her being exposed to bad teaching along with the info on the method. Some diocese require an NFP course before marriage, the teaching couples might be very used to one or both spouses who have no interest in it. Everyone I've met who taught NFP has been very nice and down to earth and sympathetic to pro contraception pro abortion mindset that young people are raised in. I don't agree with all they teach,  but I can say those good things about them.
 
You believe NFP is sinful, but are chalking up using contraception as it's not full proof? That is a huge jump there.