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Offline Pax Vobis

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Coming AI demonic dangers
« on: October 06, 2025, 08:56:36 AM »
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  • Part of interview with Geoffrey Hinton, who is considered the grandfather of AI, and a also a Nobel Prize winner in physics.  He resigned from Google in 2023 so he could speak freely about AI.

    What he says about the future is ominous.  But what struck me most was his attitude about it all.  It was so selfish and detached.  But why am I surprised?

    Here is a paraphrase of his comments, starting at 12:33.

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    With these threats, it's easy to intellectually see the threats, but it's very hard to come to terms with it, emotionally.  I haven't come to terms with it emotionally, yet.  I haven't come to terms with what the development of super intelligence could do to my children's future.

    I'm ok, i'm 77.  I'm gonna be out of here, soon.

    But for my children, and my younger friends, and my nephews and nieces, and their children...I just don't like to think about what could happen.

    Interviewer:  Why?

    Because it could be awful. 

    Intereviewer:  In what way?

    If we allow AI to take over, I mean, it would need people for a while...there's so many ways it could get rid of people, all of which could get very nasty.

    Intereviewer:  Is that why you're doing what you're doing now?

    Yes, we should be making efforts to see if we can develop it safely.

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    This AI stuff is basically opening up pandora's box and allowing demons to inhabit computers/software.  Demons will inhabit robots and software will run everything.  Giving satan and demons control of society.  I truly believe this is "their plan".

    How Our Lady will intervene, is anyone's guess.  Massive solar flares could create an EMP powerful enough to fry all electronics for quite a while.  I don't think this AI thing will last long, but...it's important to understand what ((they)) are trying to do, in order to understand the depths of evil that these people are willing to commit.

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    Re: Coming AI demonic dangers
    « Reply #1 on: October 06, 2025, 09:00:22 AM »
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  • I keep trying to convince the people with resources, we need to consolidate and find our own community/land. This needs to be done, sooner rather than later. 

    We can only do what we are able to do prudently. I believe this is a prudent solution. 


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    Re: Coming AI demonic dangers
    « Reply #2 on: October 06, 2025, 09:15:50 AM »
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  • Part of interview with Geoffrey Hinton, who is considered the grandfather of AI, and a also a Nobel Prize winner in physics.  He resigned from Google in 2023 so he could speak freely about AI.

    What he says about the future is ominous.  But what struck me most was his attitude about it all.  It was so selfish and detached.  But why am I surprised?

    Here is a paraphrase of his comments, starting at 12:33.

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    With these threats, it's easy to intellectually see the threats, but it's very hard to come to terms with it, emotionally.  I haven't come to terms with it emotionally, yet.  I haven't come to terms with what the development of super intelligence could do to my children's future.

    I'm ok, i'm 77.  I'm gonna be out of here, soon.

    But for my children, and my younger friends, and my nephews and nieces, and their children...I just don't like to think about what could happen.

    Interviewer:  Why?

    Because it could be awful. 

    Intereviewer:  In what way?

    If we allow AI to take over, I mean, it would need people for a while...there's so many ways it could get rid of people, all of which could get very nasty.

    Intereviewer:  Is that why you're doing what you're doing now?

    Yes, we should be making efforts to see if we can develop it safely.

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    This AI stuff is basically opening up pandora's box and allowing demons to inhabit computers/software.  Demons will inhabit robots and software will run everything.  Giving satan and demons control of society.  I truly believe this is "their plan".

    How Our Lady will intervene, is anyone's guess.  Massive solar flares could create an EMP powerful enough to fry all electronics for quite a while.  I don't think this AI thing will last long, but...it's important to understand what ((they)) are trying to do, in order to understand the depths of evil that these people are willing to commit.
    Yeah this sounds like fear mongering, not substantial.

    AI actually has a very important use in corporate actions.

    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/chainlink-and-24-leading-financial-market-participants-advance-industry-initiative-to-solve-58-billion-corporate-actions-problem-302569071.html

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    Chainlink, the industry-standard oracle platform, announced today the results of the second phase of an industry initiative to standardize and streamline corporate actions processing using a combination of the Chainlink oracle platform, blockchain technology, and artificial intelligence (AI). With participation from 24 of the world's largest financial services institutions, the Chainlink-powered solution enables organizations to receive structured and validated corporate actions data across multiple languages directly into their existing systems in minutes rather than days. This solution can save the global financial systems tens of billions of dollars in processing costs annually with minimal disruption to existing processes. This means fewer settlement errors, faster reconciliations, and lower operational risk for financial institutions.


    Chainlink and 24 Leading Financial Market Participants Advance Industry Initiative To Solve $58 Billion Corporate Actions Problem

    The banking and capital markets industry initiative has expanded to 24 global organizations, including some of the world's largest financial and market infrastructures, such as DTCC, Swift, and Euroclear, as well as leading financial institutions, including UBS, DBS Bank, BNP Paribas' Securities Services business, ANZ, Wellington Management, and Schroders.

    The full list of participants in this industry initiative includes financial market infrastructures Swift, The Depository Trust & Clearing Corporation (DTCC), Euroclear, SIX, TMX, CEVALDOM, Grupo BMV, ADDX, Orbix Technology, Marketnode, and Wamid, as well as leading asset managers and banks UBS, DBS Bank, BNP Paribas' Securities Services business, ANZ, Wellington Management, Schroders, Zürcher Kantonalbank, Vontobel, CTBC Bank, Causeway Capital Management, Sygnum Bank, AMINA Bank, and Zand Bank..

    Corporate actions processing costs the global financial industry an estimated $58 billion annually, with costs increasing by 10% year over year and automation rates falling below 40%. According to Citi's 2025 Asset Servicing report, the average corporate action event now touches more than 110,000 firm interactions and costs $34 million to process, with 75% of market participants still relying on manual data revalidation.

    In Phase 1 of the initiative, Chainlink, Swift, Euroclear, and six financial institutions demonstrated that large language models (LLMs)—including OpenAI's GPT series, Google's Gemini series, and Anthropic's Claude series— could extract structured data from unstructured corporate action announcements and publish it as unified golden records onchain—a single source of truth that all participants can easily access, verify, and build upon. Phase 2 introduced a production-grade deployment by making substantial improvements to the speed, reach, and accessibility of corporate actions data.

    The Chainlink Runtime Environment (CRE) orchestrated the validation of multiple AI model outputs and transformed the confirmed results into ISO 20022-compliant messages, which were then transmitted to the Swift Network. In parallel, Chainlink Cross-Chain Interoperability Protocol (CCIP) distributed these same confirmed records across DTCC's blockchain ecosystem and additional public and private blockchain environments, enabling simultaneous access across traditional infrastructure and blockchain-based platforms. New institutionally-designated roles for data attestors and contributors were also introduced to cryptographically attest to data accuracy and contribute to any missing data fields, creating a verifiable chain of custody across the lifecycle of each corporate action.

    Throughout testing, the system achieved nearly 100% data consensus agreement among AI models across all evaluated corporate actions. The architecture also demonstrated support for multilingual processing across disclosures written in non-English languages, such as Spanish and Chinese, enabling broader global coverage across jurisdictions.

    This solution unlocks a unified golden record for corporate actions, an attested, real-time source of truth that can be accessed simultaneously by smart contracts, custodians, and post-trade systems. It also enables tokenized equities, an increasingly adopted category of tokenized assets, to reference the same confirmed records across public and private blockchains, laying the groundwork for better synchronization and increased automation across onchain markets.

    By standardizing how corporate actions data is extracted, validated, and delivered, the collaboration creates a shared foundation for asset servicing across both blockchain networks and traditional financial infrastructure.

    Future efforts will focus on extending this workflow to support more complex corporate actions, like stock splits, expanding global coverage through support for additional jurisdictions and currencies, and introducing stronger privacy and governance controls to continue to meet the operational and compliance needs of global financial institutions.

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    Corporate actions events, such as dividends, stock splits, tender offers, and mergers, remain one of the most fragmented and operationally-intensive processes in global finance.

    The inefficiencies in today’s corporate actions lifecycle result i
    n:

    • $58B in annual costs across the global financial system

    • $34M average cost per event with 110K+ firm interactions

    • 75% of institutions still manually revalidate data

    Corporate actions are typically announced through human-readable formats like PDFs and press releases, then passed through custodians, brokers, fund managers, and data vendors before reaching investors.

    Along this journey, the data is frequently modified, delayed, and inconsistently processed. Key challenges include confirmation delays of 24 to 48 hours, reliance on incomplete and non-standard formats, and the absence of a single verified source of truth.



    To address the $58B+ annual corporate actions problem, Chainlink and 24 of the world’s largest financial institutions collaborated to build a solution that unifies traditional financial systems and blockchain networks.

    Key Outcomes:
    • 100% Data Accuracy: 100% data consensus was achieved across tested corporate action events with newly introduced data attestor and contributor roles enabling institutions to verify, enrich, and sign records.

    • ISO 20022 Messaging via Swift: The Chainlink Runtime Environment (CRE) orchestrates consensus across multiple AI models, transforms the records into ISO 20022-compliant messages, and transmits them through a custom-built adapter to the Swift network.

    • DTCC AppChain Connectivity: Chainlink CCIP distributes validated unified golden records across DTCC’s AppChain environment and additional public and private blockchains.



    The next phase will expand the system’s role by extending the current processing workflow to support more complex equity corporate actions onchain.

    This includes enabling events such as stock splits to be recorded and attested to across market participants using permissioned smart contract logic and verified data inputs.

    Looking ahead, this solution lays the foundation for automated corporate actions processing across major asset classes and jurisdictions.

    With standardized data, trusted workflows, and cross-system interoperability in place, the initiative is well-positioned to support a more integrated and efficient post-trade ecosystem.

    https://pages.chain.link/hubfs/e/establishing-unified-standard-asset-servicing.pdf



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    Re: Coming AI demonic dangers
    « Reply #3 on: October 06, 2025, 09:35:46 AM »
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  • Yeah this sounds like fear mongering, not substantial.
    Yes, the video title is click-bait.  Yes, AI is not a threat NOW.  No, I don't think the FUTURE threat of AI is fear-mongering; it's a true threat.  This is predictive programming.  Preparing people for what's to come.  Evil scientists are playing around with the demonic, to infuse it with software and they are admitting they can't control it.  Which they can't.

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    Re: Coming AI demonic dangers
    « Reply #4 on: October 06, 2025, 09:57:42 AM »
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  • Yes, the video title is click-bait.  Yes, AI is not a threat NOW.  No, I don't think the FUTURE threat of AI is fear-mongering; it's a true threat.  This is predictive programming.  Preparing people for what's to come.  Evil scientists are playing around with the demonic, to infuse it with software and they are admitting they can't control it.  Which they can't.
    I'm with you Pax. I know next to nothing about it except for what little Matthew has posted about it, basically it will always be subservient to will of whoever programs it. That is what is scary. 
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


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    Re: Coming AI demonic dangers
    « Reply #5 on: October 06, 2025, 10:17:33 AM »
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  • Now, on the positive side, there was a protestant who made a serious of videos where he interrogated AI and asked it all sorts of questions about who controls it, what's it's meant to do, about the antichrist, etc.  Whenever AI started dodging his questions, the man said a prayer of deliverance and the AI said that his "control network" was temporarily disabled.  AI admitted it was being controlled by witchcraft/demons but that prayer always worked against them.  AI's main purpose is to deceive humans and to manipulate them.

    The man would ask it about religion and the questions would be dodged, then the man would say a prayer and the AI would be able to admit that "Christianity is the only true religion."

    When the man asked AI about its creators (i.e. elites), and the rumor that a top exec carries around an AI kill-switch that is constantly with him, AI confirmed this.  The man asked AI that if demons control it, why do the elites need a kill switch?  AI responded, "The kill switch is to shut everything down, in case God decides to take control."

    It was a wild conversation, if even half of it is true.

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    Re: Coming AI demonic dangers
    « Reply #6 on: October 06, 2025, 10:52:43 AM »
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  • All "AI" is complex pattern recognition. That's literally all it is. Don't be awestruck by this robot/science fiction crap. 

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    Re: Coming AI demonic dangers
    « Reply #7 on: October 06, 2025, 11:37:16 AM »
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  • All "AI" is complex pattern recognition. That's literally all it is. Don't be awestruck by this robot/science fiction crap.
    This.

    For those a bit older, you remember the fear & hope surrounding other hyped things: computers, the internet, blockchain, etc.

    Watch any 80's movie about computers. They could do ANYTHING. And AI was predicted even back then, springing from THRU-HOLE, DISCRETE COMPONENTS you could solder together (resistors, capacitors, transistors). I don't think you understand how insane that is. Modern computers have millions of transistors, and they can't become intelligent. Imagine building something not much more complex than a flashlight, and having it develop self-aware AI intelligence.

    But that's precisely what happened in movies like Johnny Five.

    These things DID find a final place in our lives, once all the hype died away (after many were financially ruined), but they weren't the world-destroying, mystical, magical demon-machines we thought they were at first.

    I'll give you another clue-in: when something comes out, something ground-breaking,

    A) There is ALWAYS a "hype cycle", given human nature
    B) People don't understand it at all at first, leading to
    C) fear about the new technology, what it could do, etc.
    D) when people don't understand something, it literally feels magical -- or demonic.


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    Re: Coming AI demonic dangers
    « Reply #8 on: October 06, 2025, 12:20:14 PM »
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  • Part of interview with Geoffrey Hinton, who is considered the grandfather of AI, and a also a Nobel Prize winner in physics.  He resigned from Google in 2023 so he could speak freely about AI.

    What he says about the future is ominous.  But what struck me most was his attitude about it all.  It was so selfish and detached.  But why am I surprised?

    Here is a paraphrase of his comments, starting at 12:33.

    ------
    With these threats, it's easy to intellectually see the threats, but it's very hard to come to terms with it, emotionally.  I haven't come to terms with it emotionally, yet.  I haven't come to terms with what the development of super intelligence could do to my children's future.

    I'm ok, i'm 77.  I'm gonna be out of here, soon.

    But for my children, and my younger friends, and my nephews and nieces, and their children...I just don't like to think about what could happen.

    Interviewer:  Why?

    Because it could be awful. 

    Intereviewer:  In what way?

    If we allow AI to take over, I mean, it would need people for a while...there's so many ways it could get rid of people, all of which could get very nasty.

    Intereviewer:  Is that why you're doing what you're doing now?

    Yes, we should be making efforts to see if we can develop it safely.

    ------



    This AI stuff is basically opening up pandora's box and allowing demons to inhabit computers/software.  Demons will inhabit robots and software will run everything.  Giving satan and demons control of society.  I truly believe this is "their plan".

    How Our Lady will intervene, is anyone's guess.  Massive solar flares could create an EMP powerful enough to fry all electronics for quite a while.  I don't think this AI thing will last long, but...it's important to understand what ((they)) are trying to do, in order to understand the depths of evil that these people are willing to commit.
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    Re: Coming AI demonic dangers
    « Reply #9 on: October 06, 2025, 12:24:51 PM »
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  • Fascinating how every “tech is demonic” thread skips two thousand years of Catholic teaching and lands right on a guy with a ring light and an apocalypse playlist.

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    Re: Coming AI demonic dangers
    « Reply #10 on: October 06, 2025, 12:30:59 PM »
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  • All "AI" is complex pattern recognition. That's literally all it is. Don't be awestruck by this robot/science fiction crap.
    I agree that HUMAN AI is just code and logic, created by humans.  But if this code is inhabited by demons (and there's NOTHING contrary to the faith in this), then it becomes something more.

    Let's remember that the "media story" is that AI will become smarter than all of us.  That's garbage, as computers can't come alive.  Same thing with aliens, no such thing.

    But demonic-inhabited computers - that's possible.  And demons disguised as aliens - that's possible.

    Under certain conditions, God allows demons to haunt houses, to possess people, to inhabit animals.  Why can't they inhabit computers?  


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    Re: Coming AI demonic dangers
    « Reply #11 on: October 06, 2025, 12:38:38 PM »
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  • To put this in context, we know that ancient pagans worshipped demonic machines with moving parts to facilitate the human-sacrifice victim being moved into the fire. We also know that even ordinary idols without moving parts were known to be possessed by demons.

    Those who actually watched the video posted in the OP know his main point was that
    machines (AI) are being developed which can then be possessed by demons.This will become the control grid for all humanity.

    Other commentators point out this this control grid will create prison for those who refuse to comply. They will not be able be able to access their bank accounts, will not be allowed to work, not allowed to travel, their children will not be allowed to attend school, etc.

    This sounds Biblical as in "without the Mark of the Beast no one will be able to buy, sell or trade.

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    Re: Coming AI demonic dangers
    « Reply #12 on: October 06, 2025, 12:51:24 PM »
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  • I'm with you Pax. I know next to nothing about it except for what little Matthew has posted about it, basically it will always be subservient to will of whoever programs it. That is what is scary.
    As you say -- "whoever programs it."
    Hmmm.
    Who else but those who forced most of the world's population to take a genetic experiment in the form of a "vaccine" aka kill shot.

    Check this out:

    https://medium.com/@zduncan/is-ai-demonic-073cfe25aee4
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    Re: Coming AI demonic dangers
    « Reply #13 on: October 06, 2025, 02:01:58 PM »
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  • If we allow AI to take over, I mean, it would need people for a while...there's so many ways it could get rid of people, all of which could get very nasty.

    Intereviewer:  Is that why you're doing what you're doing now?

    Yes, we should be making efforts to see if we can develop it safely.
    .

    This shows you how these people who design computer software are good at engineering and practical solutions of the kind that is needed to write computer code, but they are utterly clueless in anything needing common sense or abstract thought.

    The idea that a tool made by human beings can "take over" the human race, or the world, or anything else, and get rid of people, is absurd on numerous levels. Computers are tools; they are machines made by people to perform certain tasks. They can't take over human beings.

    This is like saying we shouldn't make better quality monkey wrenches, because if we design a monkey wrench that is "too good", and we "allow those monkey wrenches to take over", they will "get rid of people" and "replace" people with monkey wrenches.

    This is not anything even remotely resembling rational thought.

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    Re: Coming AI demonic dangers
    « Reply #14 on: October 06, 2025, 02:56:19 PM »
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    This shows you how these people who design computer software are good at engineering and practical solutions of the kind that is needed to write computer code, but they are utterly clueless in anything needing common sense or abstract thought.

    The idea that a tool made by human beings can "take over" the human race, or the world, or anything else, and get rid of people, is absurd on numerous levels. Computers are tools; they are machines made by people to perform certain tasks. They can't take over human beings.

    This is like saying we shouldn't make better quality monkey wrenches, because if we design a monkey wrench that is "too good", and we "allow those monkey wrenches to take over", they will "get rid of people" and "replace" people with monkey wrenches.

    This is not anything even remotely resembling rational thought.
    Ok, but if the devil is given a monkey wrench, he could kill you with it, if God allowed.  The demons can react with physical things, to the extent that God allows.  

    The whole point of AI (from the elites’ view) is to build a consolidated, centralized database and then let demons “process” the data to give answers to the elite.

     This really doesn’t involve anything inherently supernatural.  Computers can suck in data.  Servers can store data.  What humans can’t do is process it all, quadrillions of pieces of info, and make sense of it, in real time.  But demons can.  

    It’ll be called “super intelligence” but it’s basically demonic analysis.  If God allows it (and He already has, to some degree), I don’t see a theological issue with this scenario.  Again, why can’t a server be possessed?  I see no reason why not.  (If God allows it).