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College is usually NOT worth it
« on: August 26, 2019, 06:16:32 PM »
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    Re: College is usually NOT worth it
    « Reply #1 on: August 26, 2019, 08:54:42 PM »
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  •  I did not get a chance to watch the video but we that is my husband and I have already made the decision that unless our children need college for example to become a doctor or something of the sort we will not endorse it because it pushes liberal theology a definite causes a loss of faith. We highly advocate for our boys to learn trades or start their own business and hope to give them an inheritance of land so they will not have to fend for themselves and give in to the modern city life just to make a living. And as for our girls they too can learn a skill that they can make money with until they get married or enter the convent whichever God chooses for them...sounds a bit old school  but we believe this is the way God intended it to be.


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    Re: College is usually NOT worth it
    « Reply #2 on: August 26, 2019, 10:00:54 PM »
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  • I did not get a chance to watch the video but we that is my husband and I have already made the decision that unless our children need college for example to become a doctor or something of the sort we will not endorse it because it pushes liberal theology a definite causes a loss of faith. We highly advocate for our boys to learn trades or start their own business and hope to give them an inheritance of land so they will not have to fend for themselves and give in to the modern city life just to make a living. And as for our girls they too can learn a skill that they can make money with until they get married or enter the convent whichever God chooses for them...sounds a bit old school  but we believe this is the way God intended it to be.
    Basically agree, but what if a daughter neither marries nor becomes a nun?  Will she be able to support herself?  It’s just something to keep in mind if Our Lord tarries and she outlives you.  I bring it up because a single woman without an education who is alone in the world has a very difficult time of it.  The temptation, even pressure to have to compromise or make a bad marriage is intense.    

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    Re: College is usually NOT worth it
    « Reply #3 on: August 27, 2019, 07:08:38 AM »
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  • Basically agree, but what if a daughter neither marries nor becomes a nun?  Will she be able to support herself?  It’s just something to keep in mind if Our Lord tarries and she outlives you.  I bring it up because a single woman without an education who is alone in the world has a very difficult time of it.  The temptation, even pressure to have to compromise or make a bad marriage is intense.    
    Yes, this is certainly a valid concern for sure, yet sending one's child away to college these days is most definitely not the answer and might well be at least a venial sin, perhaps mortal if you already know just how terribly bad college is these days yet help fund or approve of your child going away to college anyway. Submersing your child into a world where every kind of immorality is glorified and designed to be sought after 24/7 must be avoided no matter what. I think we can all pretty much agree on this.

    I think the video had sound advise. 

    For those that a college degree is a necessity for the field they want to enter, find another field and do something else or attend a trade school for your degree - it's not the end of the world and if there even are regrets later in life, so what. Better to live with insignificant regrets than to send your child into live within the halls of hell. No?     




     
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    Re: College is usually NOT worth it
    « Reply #4 on: August 27, 2019, 11:23:04 AM »
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  • Good luck finding any job outside of garbage man, religious vocation, mailman, and construction worker without a college degree. If you plan on raising a big Catholic family you have to have the funds via a good job. 

    To the people saying that college will turn them liberal: do you not see the world we live in? Just teach them to ignore it like they do the other bs that we have to live with in the modern world. 
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    Re: College is usually NOT worth it
    « Reply #5 on: August 27, 2019, 11:41:42 AM »
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  • Good luck finding any job outside of garbage man, religious vocation, mailman, and construction worker without a college degree. If you plan on raising a big Catholic family you have to have the funds via a good job.

    To the people saying that college will turn them liberal: do you not see the world we live in? Just teach them to ignore it like they do the other bs that we have to live with in the modern world.
    There are plenty making close to or well over $100k/year, never having gone to college. It might take a while depending on the field - just as it would with a degree -  but to make a great income that can support a large family comfortably, most people have zero need of going to college to achieve that goal, they just need to work.

    You are likely accustomed to seeing the filth so that it does not strike you as being as hideous as it is, at least not as much as it would if you were not so conditioned to it. But to see what comes out of today's "higher education" is like watching them bring down the wrath of God upon themselves - and us. It seems like no trad should even want anything whatsoever to do with that whole scene.  

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    Re: College is usually NOT worth it
    « Reply #6 on: August 27, 2019, 12:00:43 PM »
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  • There are plenty making close to or well over $100k/year, never having gone to college. It might take a while depending on the field - just as it would with a degree -  but to make a great income that can support a large family comfortably, most people have zero need of going to college to achieve that goal, they just need to work.

    I agree.  I have family members without college degrees who worked up to that range in the trades ... auto mechanic, electrical/plumbing, and manufacturing.  It takes a bit longer, but they also get a 4-year head start where they could be learning their trade instead of going to college.

    Let's say that a student lives at home and is able to put away the entirety of a $10/hour income.  He could put away roughly $65K after taxes in 4 years (with no bills).  Then take the $40K minimum (at a state college) that he did NOT spend.  That is a $105K swing before the college grad who has worked a single day.  Plus the non-college student has a 4-year head start.


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    Re: College is usually NOT worth it
    « Reply #7 on: August 27, 2019, 12:03:04 PM »
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  • I agree.  I have family members without college degrees who worked up to that range in the trades ... auto mechanic, electrical/plumbing, and manufacturing.  It takes a bit longer, but they also get a 4-year head start where they could be learning their trade instead of going to college.

    Let's say that a student lives at home and is able to put away the entirety of a $10/hour income.  He could put away roughly $65K after taxes in 4 years (with no bills).  Then take the $40K minimum (at a state college) that he did NOT spend.  That is a $105K swing before the college grad who has worked a single day.  Plus the non-college student has a 4-year head start.
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    Re: College is usually NOT worth it
    « Reply #8 on: August 27, 2019, 12:16:10 PM »
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  • Yes, this is certainly a valid concern for sure, yet sending one's child away to college these days is most definitely not the answer and might well be at least a venial sin, perhaps mortal if you already know just how terribly bad college is these days yet help fund or approve of your child going away to college anyway. Submersing your child into a world where every kind of immorality is glorified and designed to be sought after 24/7 must be avoided no matter what. I think we can all pretty much agree on this.

    I think the video had sound advise.

    For those that a college degree is a necessity for the field they want to enter, find another field and do something else or attend a trade school for your degree - it's not the end of the world and if there even are regrets later in life, so what. Better to live with insignificant regrets than to send your child into live within the halls of hell. No?      




     
    We need college degrees, as much as we need trades. You cannot expect someone to only exist in a bubble of other Catholics — that's not possible in today's time.
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    Re: College is usually NOT worth it
    « Reply #9 on: August 27, 2019, 12:23:13 PM »
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  • We need college degrees, as much as we need trades. You cannot expect someone to only exist in a bubble of other Catholics — that's not possible in today's time.
    I disagree. A man should go where he is not tempted - that means no going away to college. Find a field you enjoy and that pays well and doesn't require college - it might mean striking out a few times, but it's out there, that much is certain.  
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    Re: College is usually NOT worth it
    « Reply #10 on: August 27, 2019, 12:29:04 PM »
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  • I disagree. A man should go where he is not tempted - that means no going away to college. Find a field you enjoy and that pays well and doesn't require college - it might mean striking out a few times, but it's out there, that much is certain.  

    If we as a whole reject college, then we would abandon whole fields such as the field of medicine or law to the devil's spawn. Unless the schools force one to commit sins to get a degree, I think it would be good to have traditional Catholics in these fields. I wish I knew of good traditional Catholic doctors in Babylon where I live. I do not know enough to know which schools are safe and which ones try to force sin upon their students.
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    Re: College is usually NOT worth it
    « Reply #11 on: August 27, 2019, 12:41:40 PM »
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  • If we as a whole reject college, then we would abandon whole fields such as the field of medicine or law to the devil's spawn. Unless the schools force one to commit sins to get a degree, I think it would be good to have traditional Catholics in these fields. I wish I knew of good traditional Catholic doctors in Babylon where I live. I do not know enough to know which schools are safe and which ones try to force sin upon their students.
    There are plenty of others who don't know any better, who go to get their degree and end up as very good doctors, lawyers and whatever, so never worry about "if we as a whole reject college".

    The correct thinking is this; Every single person on earth should wholly condemn and reject college for the evil that it is and the evil that it does, and until they teach truth and reject all immorality. What would these colleges have to do then?

    As it is, no, college is usually not worth it.
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    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: College is usually NOT worth it
    « Reply #12 on: August 27, 2019, 01:04:52 PM »
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  • At least 95% of college degrees are worthless. In fact, they're a negative value because they cause you to go into financial debt and, also, a spiritual, mental & intellectual debt.

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    Re: College is usually NOT worth it
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  • College is a Jєω racket.

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    « Reply #14 on: August 27, 2019, 01:20:57 PM »
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  • One way to use the Jєω system against itself is to take out as many credit cards as you can possess, and charge your tuition, fees, etc to your cards. Since, by Jєωιѕн design, you can't declare bankruptcy on your student loans, you can escape the Jєω tentacles by declaring bankruptcy on credit cards, plus you get the degree you so earnestly wanted. In 10 years or so, your credit score will be back to normal, and who really cares about a Jєω credit score anyway? Why play into the Jєω matrix? Don't be a player. Simply save your money, live minimalist, and live for Jesus Christ !

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