Author Topic: Coed Gyms (Read 2699 times)

Marcelino · « **on:** April 11, 2012, 12:20:02 AM »

Coed Gyms freak me out! First, there's all the flirting and flashing and such, but actually working with the girls, has gone way beyond the pale. It's no big deal now for a grappling class to be coed. You actually have to put some girl in a choke hold and keep her there, while she struggles to escape. All the while your cheek to cheek! I can't take it! This is too much!!!!!!

Seriously, it's at the point where coed locker rooms would seem like "no bid deal." I mean, if you can spend a six minute round grappling with a sweaty girl in shorts and a t-shirt, without losing your mind (and you cannot train without being willing to), then what can't you do? Survive on nothing but motor oil and potato chips for a month, you betcha!

Daegus · « **Reply #1 on:** April 11, 2012, 06:05:23 AM »

If you want to get a work out, just make your own home gym. It may initially seem expensive but it will pay for itself soon enough. That way you can work out in peace without distraction from anybody. Forget all of this grappling stuff. Martial artists often don't even teach you how to respond in a real situation because the environment and the reactions are so artificial.

Ascetik · « **Reply #2 on:** April 11, 2012, 08:55:24 AM »

I second the home gym, or get a job that requires a lot of manual labor, like landscaping. Grappling though... not a very efficient martial art if you ask me. Jeet Kune Do seems to be the best street fighting martial art that I've come across, they teach you real life situations like what to do when you get jumped. Bruce Lee got into a lot of street fights in his younger age, so it was more geared towards that. Just from observation, it seems like most other martial arts are pretty ineffective because they're done in a vacuum of training within a dojo or gym, yes JKD training is done in a gym, but 95% of the situations you are training for in JKD are real life, like a dude with a knife or a gun on the street ready to mug or jump you.

Krav Maga, Thai boxing, or Wing Chun seem like the only other martial arts worth learning because of their ability to effectively produce real life counter attacks, and they train you for that, at least Krav Maga and Wing Chun, thai boxing is more recreational and tournament based, but its still a crazy good martial art in my opinion.

Graham · « **Reply #3 on:** April 11, 2012, 03:05:46 PM »

Yes, I used to go to an MMA gym and I always shook my head in disbelief when I saw this. What are we meant to think about the type of girl who signs herself up for this?

Telesphorus · « **Reply #4 on:** April 11, 2012, 03:23:03 PM »

Quote from: Daegus

If you want to get a work out, just make your own home gym. It may initially seem expensive but it will pay for itself soon enough.

Yes, the only problem for me was that I bought free weights and have never had a spotter. I've elected to train without a spotter now but that really wouldn't be a good plan for a beginner.

Ascetik · « **Reply #5 on:** April 11, 2012, 08:04:34 PM »

You don't really need a spotter unless you're doing bench presses, and bench presses aren't even the most effective way to hit your chest. Dumbbells and pushups seem to be the best. I never really seemed to gain anything from doing bench presses, but thats just my body.

Bodybuilding.com has a great subsection where you can sort by the best weight training exercise by rating according to each muscle group, bench press is really low on the todum pole there. I rarely see people doing bench presses anymore. I don't know if you were referring specifically to that, but from what I've found, bench presses are really the only weight training exercise I've ever needed one for.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #6 on:** April 11, 2012, 08:28:37 PM »

Quote from: Ascetik

You don't really need a spotter unless you're doing bench presses, and bench presses aren't even the most effective way to hit your chest. Dumbbells and pushups seem to be the best. I never really seemed to gain anything from doing bench presses, but thats just my body.

:scratchchin:

I've gained a lot from bench in the past. 10 years ago I maxed 295, though I weighed then nearly 40 lbs more than I do now. I only started benching a couple weeks ago, without a spotter, after not having done it for a couple years. Today bench is up to over 250, I just did 2 sets of 252 lbs today, then 6 of 225. I need to be careful, but it would seem I will be able to bench 315 with six months. Hopefully sooner. I'm pleasantly surprised. It would appear the deadlift has simply increased my overall strength.

Spork · « **Reply #7 on:** April 11, 2012, 09:38:41 PM »

Quote from: Ascetik

I second the home gym, or get a job that requires a lot of manual labor, like landscaping. Grappling though... not a very efficient martial art if you ask me. Jeet Kune Do seems to be the best street fighting martial art that I've come across, they teach you real life situations like what to do when you get jumped. Bruce Lee got into a lot of street fights in his younger age, so it was more geared towards that. Just from observation, it seems like most other martial arts are pretty ineffective because they're done in a vacuum of training within a dojo or gym, yes JKD training is done in a gym, but 95% of the situations you are training for in JKD are real life, like a dude with a knife or a gun on the street ready to mug or jump you.

Krav Maga, Thai boxing, or Wing Chun seem like the only other martial arts worth learning because of their ability to effectively produce real life counter attacks, and they train you for that, at least Krav Maga and Wing Chun, thai boxing is more recreational and tournament based, but its still a crazy good martial art in my opinion.

http://www.veearnisjitsu.com/#!vstc3=about-vaj

Spork · « **Reply #8 on:** April 11, 2012, 09:40:38 PM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

Quote from: Ascetik
You don't really need a spotter unless you're doing bench presses, and bench presses aren't even the most effective way to hit your chest. Dumbbells and pushups seem to be the best. I never really seemed to gain anything from doing bench presses, but thats just my body.

:scratchchin:

I've gained a lot from bench in the past. 10 years ago I maxed 295, though I weighed then nearly 40 lbs more than I do now. I only started benching a couple weeks ago, without a spotter, after not having done it for a couple years. Today bench is up to over 250, I just did 2 sets of 252 lbs today, then 6 of 225. I need to be careful, but it would seem I will be able to bench 315 with six months. Hopefully sooner. I'm pleasantly surprised. It would appear the deadlift has simply increased my overall strength.

Do this if anything. Bench is great for the beach and ego, but deadlifting will build muscle, strengthen core, power, heart, shoulders, legs. Check out kettle bells and power cleans, too.

Marcelino · « **Reply #9 on:** April 11, 2012, 09:45:26 PM »

Yeah, if it becomes a persistent occassion to sin, them I'm all for the home gym and forget the other stuff. I completely agree, you can get a solid workout at home. Push ups, sit ups, jump rope, run, pull ups, dips, then if you've got money for dumbells, you can do all kinds of stuff. Bottom line, it isn't worth your soul. Still, I don't want to shirk a good opportunity for spiritual growth.

I see a lot of guys wind up whipped by these gym girls. It's creepy when you get this type of guy that worships them. How do you get that devoted to a pretty girl, who puts on a show for every guy in the gym? You gotta be nuts!

not to be trusted!!

Ascetik · « **Reply #10 on:** April 12, 2012, 09:28:50 AM »

I just canceled my gym membership a couple of days ago because I got sick and missed about a month's worth, and most of the stuff I was doing I can do at home with a kettle ball or small weight set and calisthenics and I got sick of all the immodestly dressed women.

One thing that really scares me is the women who weight lift, then look, talk and act like men, it's disturbing. Really muscular women are not attractive whatsoever if you ask me.

Marcelino · « **Reply #11 on:** April 12, 2012, 01:24:27 PM »

Quote from: Graham

Yes, I used to go to an MMA gym and I always shook my head in disbelief when I saw this. What are we meant to think about the type of girl who signs herself up for this?

I wonder about that too. I wouldn't go to a beauty parlor to get a haircut, but I wonder, are unisex/transgendered haircutting shops where the majority of men get their haircuts nowadays? Every once in a while, I see a girl get a haircut at my barber shop, but she's just getting some kind of clipper cut, not a real "hair doo" and she usually dresses, looks and acts like a dude. Hmm, maybe she's a grappler

I wonder, maybe I should start growing my hair real long and putting some nice curls in it. Then maybe I could start wearing those airy summer dresses all the prettiest girls will be wearing this season. My only issue is shoes. I just can't get used to flats. I need real support in a shoe. Maybe that's because I weigh twice as much as most girls who wear pretty summer dresses. I guess you little guys have got all the luck! :roll-laugh1:

Raoul76 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 12, 2012, 01:41:14 PM »

???

Marcellino, did someone hogtie you, drag you to a gym, and force you to "grapple" with sweaty women? How is it I've never even come close to this situation of temptation? Even when I went to the gym it wasn't hard to stay away from, say, the yoga room, let alone the co-ed grapple-chamber or whatever it is you're talking about ( mine didn't have one ).

Marcelino · « **Reply #13 on:** April 12, 2012, 02:17:17 PM »

Quote from: Raoul76

???

Marcellino, did someone hogtie you, drag you to a gym, and force you to "grapple" with sweaty women? How is it I've never even come close to this situation of temptation? Even when I went to the gym it wasn't hard to stay away from, say, the yoga room, let alone the co-ed grapple-chamber or whatever it is you're talking about ( mine didn't have one ).

If you had trained for any kind of ground fighting, you would know that in these united states, the way our culture provides for an adult to do that, is some form of bjj and those classes, although 95% men, are not men only.

I guess your other option is to join the military, but you're gonna find that in there, the percentage of women is even higher!

So, you can either give up, try to train with a video and your little brother or figure out a way to train with the adults and not damn your eternal soul to Hell in the process.

Hell, detail of the lustful, c.1394
Taddeo Di Bartolo

ggreg · « **Reply #14 on:** April 12, 2012, 07:29:15 PM »

Looks like the grapple room in the gym.