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I take it the Traditional crowd is not a big fan of Christopher West?     :thinking:

NO.  Stay away from Christopher West.  His ideas are pornographic.  I've read he has a history of sinful challenges himself.  He is in no position to teach anything, particularly his made up theology.

If you want to follow traditional women who write about Catholic modesty and identity, look up Alice Von Hildebrand and Colleen Hammond.  I have not read their materials but I've checked out Colleen's blog from time to time.  There are some other names that I can't think of at the moment.  

His books  were recommended  to me on another forum. Unfortunately, I've flipped through one,  apparently it is the less graphic one, but it still seemed odd (?)

Thank you for the names/ideas.

What is it with woman these days exposing their cleavage at every turn everywhere? I mean everywhere you go in the marketplace some bimbo has her breasts falling our of her flimsy top so that you can't help but notice

And I'm not just talking about the young females but the aging forty and fifty somethings; many women will regress down to the lowest forms of indecency and sɛҳuąƖ degeneracy.

And this is not a thread just to bash women, I know men have a responsibility in all this but temptation and promiscuity is getting out of hand.

I think we need some kind of "humility laws" enacted, at least in the work/market place to get this over stimulation under control before our women totally whore themselves out for good and corrupt the eyes and minds of the up and coming generation.

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I couldn't agree more and they (the woman, for the most part, are the least attractive in every way, to be found- especially the 'over upholstered' with the 'tats' and the over friendly, "like why don't you smile?" kind of idiocy.  But self-flattery seems to be a new trend especially amongst all woman; and this has spilled into the faithful at Church. If you greet some lady with a smile and a friendly hello, she takes that to the 'moon' and starts to tell everyone you've made an 'advance' on her....I mean really! Then, all the husbands are duped by them and they start to be suspicious of your every move.  These 'ladies' are even apt to run to the priest and accuse you of 'rape'...that is how absurd it can get.  These mindless issues are infectious and evil spirits taking good souls eyes off the working out their salvation, hindering prayer life, and causing division (with all its rotten fruits).  This reminds me of the diabolical confusion of the 60's...when seeing adult "Catholics"  "drinking like Dean and Frank, loving the Beatles and Laugh In, but always going to Mass on Sunday.  Its the Devils old tricks, just a new generation.  When I read about the 'engineering' these Masons have on Society, I got the 'willies and the chills'.  The same astounding plots, ploys, tactics and craziness all makes sense to them and the effect is incredible. It can start with something as dumb as 'self-flattery'.  

If you greet some lady with a smile and a friendly hello, she takes that to the 'moon' and starts to tell everyone you've made an 'advance' on her....I mean really!

It is feminism run amok.  They make an advance, if the man responds, they feel justified to accuse the man of harassment if by some chance they happen to become embarrassed about things.  That in itself is insane, but what is more insane is that the men, women, even the priests, will go along with what they say regardless of the truth.

Here's a quote from a woman from Latvia who came to the US:

My advice to all women who want to pursue their dreams across the ocean. America is a woman’s paradise, especially for mature women. Here all the laws revolve around the women. The woman will almost always leave the courthouse as a winner — even when it seems incredible that she could win.