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Offline MrsZ

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« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2012, 02:58:54 PM »
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  • I see this all around as well.  It's interesting to me how few men actually do show any obvious reaction.  In fact, I never see it.  When I was growing up and into my teens and twenties .. it seemed that you'd often see (or experience) men turning around when they passed a woman,, or would look at her blatantly, saying something, calling out from a car .. (NOT that this is a good thing, in fact, I hated that type of thing), but I absolutely never observe that anymore at all.  You could see the most attractive woman dressed immodestly and you'll see guys walking by as if she's invisible.  No perceptable response by anyone.  You kind of wonder why women keep doing it when they aren't getting any "positive" feedback!

    Sometimes I think that without intentionally trying to, many (even secular) men are forced to practice custody of the eyes (and thoughts too) just to get by in the day to day business of life. I also think that men are both 1) afraid of sɛҳuąƖ harrassment charges, and 2) have become so saturated with these images, that they've become less and less sensitive, i.e., consciously reactive to them.  

    I know, alaric that you've noticed otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned it.  But I think that it's such an aggressive act by the women, ... that most men have just shut off to the stimuli.  And frankly, it's like a female version of attack.  It's less about sɛҳuąƖity, as it is about power.


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    « Reply #16 on: June 25, 2012, 03:05:20 PM »
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    Sometimes I think that without intentionally trying to, many (secular) men are forced to practice custody of the eyes (and thoughts too) just to get by in the day to day business of life. I also think that men are both 1) afraid of sɛҳuąƖ harrassment charges, and 2) have become so saturated with these images, that they've become less and less sensitive, i.e., consciously reactive to them.  


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    « Reply #17 on: June 25, 2012, 03:20:25 PM »
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    Like I said, women need to be kept in under control because they get out of hand in a hurry and when they get ogled for it, of course, all the guys are "pigs" for giving the attention they so desperately want. Total illogic.


    How do you suggest women be kept under control?  Should their husbands spank them? :rolleyes:


    I think he means husbands should correct their wives when they dress immodestly.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #18 on: June 25, 2012, 03:35:24 PM »
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    I recommend writing a letter to the manager of the pharmacy, insurance office, store etc. and tell them that if their receptionist or clerk doesn't dress more professionally you'll be taking your business elsewhere.  

    I've written a few of these letters over the years.  Sign your name if you wish, or sign it "a customer". It might be even better if they don't know who writes the letter since they'll then be wondering each time a customer comes through the door if the person is the letter writer.  
    I think I'd have writers cramp because I'd have to write so many letters and to be frank, I'm sure either they wouldn't care less or like the attention themselves ( sex sells as they say) or terrified of some kind of gender/sɛҳuąƖ harassment for the mere mention about them toning it down and  dressing somewhat more modestly.

    This is the world we live in.


    Type a letter and keep it on your computer to change according to the need.  That shouldn't be too hard and you won't get writer's cramp.  

    As Catholics we need to be proactive.  Think of this as an apostolic action.  

    Be sure to tell them that if things don't improve you'll take your business elsewhere.  Money talks.  If a manager sees it, he/she will hopefully say something to the employee for fear of losing business.

    Most businesses do have some type of professional dress code, unless you're talking about a very small business, and if it's a small business, they'll be especially worried about losing buinsess over this.  


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    « Reply #19 on: June 25, 2012, 03:36:36 PM »
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  • You can write your letter directly to the woman who has offended against modesty or to the manager.  

    Heck, write to both of them.


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    « Reply #20 on: June 25, 2012, 06:30:09 PM »
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  • Writing letters works.  You might be surprised that you can get results with stuff like that.  Albeit, short lived.  In the end, we seem to be living in an age of immodesty.  So, you don't have much control over anything but yourself.  That shouldn't be taken for granted either.  

     

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    « Reply #21 on: June 25, 2012, 07:52:53 PM »
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  • Who is Peg Bundy?
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #22 on: June 25, 2012, 08:06:41 PM »
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  • Side boob is the new cleavage.


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    « Reply #23 on: June 25, 2012, 08:08:07 PM »
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    Who is Peg Bundy?


    Shame. On. You.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092400/

    Al Bundy is my hero. I'm actually writing a comprehensive book on this show, if I ever get around to it. I know everything about it.

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    « Reply #24 on: June 25, 2012, 08:45:08 PM »
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  • Yeah. I know of certain women at the office who dress like that and I suspect it's because they're next to useless as workers. And on top of that, you go to a bank or a restaurant and they're playing music with sɛҳuąƖ lyrics. It never seems to cross anyone's mind that it's inappropriate. I complained once at my bank about the music they play and the teller actually started arguing with me. Who can even fathom the lack of propriety that causes a bank teller to argue with her customer about such a thing? Fortunately one of the district managers lent a more sympathetic ear.

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    « Reply #25 on: June 25, 2012, 09:59:13 PM »
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    I complained once at my bank about the music they play and the teller actually started arguing with me.


    They play music like that in the banks in Canada?  Strange.

    It is also strange she would be invested in defending it.  But maybe not.  A large section of women seem to have decided collectively that they are going to besiege men with this sort of thing.  The slutwalks show that it is ideological, thought out, intentional, shameless, not just a fad, no, they're self-righteous about it.  

    They want to make men walk on egg shells, they want to make accusations on any pretext.

    Society has changed a great deal since this article was written:

    http://www.oldandsold.com/books/men-women/men-women-18.shtml


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    « Reply #26 on: June 25, 2012, 10:15:55 PM »
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  • Well, I know this thread is about the woman, but something I find equally offensive on a man, is when he wears his pants hanging off his fat arse, showing...umm, well let's just say it makes a girl gag.  Too gross for words    



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    « Reply #27 on: June 26, 2012, 04:22:18 AM »
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    What is is with men these days approving their wives exposing themselves like this?


    There are no men, just a bunch of weenies, pansies, or closet sodomites. Any man that has no courage to stand up to a woman in my opinion should be ashamed of himself and not call himself a man.


      If you ask him he will say:' I am open-minded, I am modern, logical and up-to date. I see my wife as a human person with freedom of choice,she is an adult who knows what is best for her and can decide. spouses have to respect eachother's views and opinions." etc. He is himself as brainwashed as his wife.
      If a guy feels the social pressure to appear ''progressed'' and ''modern'' he will force his wife to dress like that.

     

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    « Reply #28 on: June 26, 2012, 04:39:56 AM »
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  • Story about dressing modestly in China.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-18589737

    I don't think it means MODESTLY, just more modestly than a whore.

    Offline Traditional Guy 20

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    « Reply #29 on: June 26, 2012, 06:28:30 AM »
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  • Quote from: Philomena
    Well, I know this thread is about the woman, but something I find equally offensive on a man, is when he wears his pants hanging off his fat arse, showing...umm, well let's just say it makes a girl gag.  Too gross for words    




    Oh you're definitely right about that. I've seen plenty of ghetto wannabe gangsters dressed like that. In fact I mentioned that in my thread about the sloven dress of men.