Before these groups were created Catholics went to Mass and came home to their families and friends.Yeah, this was in the 1800s.
In the end, the domestic church is neglected.Church groups shouldn't be used to escape from the domestic church, but sadly this happens frequently.
If you look at groups like the Knights of Columbus, Hibernians, Legion of Mary , etc., these groups just divided many within a parish. Many of these groups are very Masonic like too. “Legion”makes me think of the devil and Marian worship. Many in our area belong to these groups but don’t know the Catholic faith or reject it. Many in our area belong to these groups and are Freemasons too. A small number of traditional Catholics go to Eucharistic adoration and confession. Many groups are just social work with prayer thrown in.In the time before these organisations about which you clearly know very little, women kept their mouths shut in public, especially in the presence of men.
I notice many Philly cultural Catholics have moved into our area. Most vote democrat. They leave their crime filled neighborhoods to create the same unholy mess into our area.
In the end, the domestic church is neglected. The faith starts at home. The father should be leading in home prayers too. Pray the rosary and read the Bible.
There was no diners open or even donut Sunday.What! No donut Sunday?? What about coffee cake Sunday?
What! No donut Sunday?? What about coffee cake Sunday?I would prefer Boxty and Jameson Sundays after Mass!
Before these groups were created Catholics went to Mass and came home to their families and friends. Sundays was Mass and family get togethers. There was no diners open or even donut Sunday. There was no tv and Sunday football. Sunday football was planned as a distraction. There was never child sports either. Many have been deceived. Catholics especially older Catholics have to be entertained.This is a strange, rambling, borderline incoherent post. I’m not sure what you’re trying to say.
Before these groups were created Catholics went to Mass and came home to their families and friends. Sundays was Mass and family get togethers. There was no diners open or even donut Sunday. There was no tv and Sunday football. Sunday football was planned as a distraction. There was never child sports either. Many have been deceived. Catholics especially older Catholics have to be entertained.If only time could return to the Silent Generation!
If only time could return to the Silent Generation!This is another salient point. Some folks at our chapel don’t have any traditional Catholic family and have a limited social circle. They work secular jobs all week. Coffee and donuts after Mass is their only chance all week to step away from the banality of the world and have uplifting conversations with fellow Catholics. Not only do I fail to see the harm in this, but I thing it is outright praiseworthy. I know many good Catholic couples who met their spouses at such coffee hours, men at the parish who have hired younger men looking for work they met at coffee hour etc. this is a very good thing.
These days, Mass is a two to four hour drive, one way. Coming home to a delicious home cooked dinner to share with family and friends isn’t happening. Extended family aren’t Catholic and live far away. Catholic friends are visited over coffee and donuts after Mass. Upon return home, it’s more necessary to put fussy babies and overtired toddlers down for a nap than to start cooking a big dinner. After a light and easy to prepare supper, Dad may lead in evening prayers, if your family is unusually blessed. Then it’s time to bathe the children, put out clothes for Monday morning, make and pack school and work lunches, then fall into bed because the alarm rings at 6:00 AM or earlier on Monday morning.
Single folks who live alone get their weekly social hour after Mass over coffee and donuts. Then they drive 3 1/2 hours home to an empty house, or perhaps to a hungry pet who needs food and a walk. Supper is likely to be a frozen meal popped from freezer to microwave. Then it’s time for evening prayers and bed. 6:00 AM comes around too soon and you can’t be late for work in the morning.
It’s a good thing diners and gas stations are open on Sunday, or many of us wouldn’t be able to hear Mass and might have to stop to relieve oneself in the woods. If the diner is too expensive, there are always bags of finger food and bottled beverage to nibble on the way home. Welcome to Gen Alpha!
Well, Knights of Columbus have had steak dinners with the Masons. that was decades ago.The Knights of Columbus was formed in the late 1800s as a mutual benefit and fraternal society for Catholic men at a time when being working-class and Catholic excluded men from general US society.
Was there any pope who blessed the group, that formed, when, early 1800?
If you look at groups like the Knights of Columbus, Hibernians, Legion of Mary , etc., these groups just divided many within a parish. Many of these groups are very Masonic like too. “Legion”makes me think of the devil and Marian worship. Many in our area belong to these groups but don’t know the Catholic faith or reject it. Many in our area belong to these groups and are Freemasons too. A small number of traditional Catholics go to Eucharistic adoration and confession. Many groups are just social work with prayer thrown in.I belong to auxiliary Legion of Mary. What is wrong with me praying the rosary? My husband is a Knight of Columbus. The Knights built the playground for the parish school. The Knights collect coats for the poor kids. When a woman came into the church naked and brutalized because her husband drove her out of their apartment, it was the knights who covered her with their jackets, ran to the dollar store around the corner and bought her a dress and stayed with her until cops came. Members of the Knights old and young were the first men to jump up and come to our priest's aid when he was almost attacked by a witch and they support the free clinic. What's wrong with that?
I notice many Philly cultural Catholics have moved into our area. Most vote democrat. They leave their crime filled neighborhoods to create the same unholy mess into our area.
In the end, the domestic church is neglected. The faith starts at home. The father should be leading in home prayers too. Pray the rosary and read the Bible.
If you look at groups like the Knights of Columbus, Hibernians, Legion of Mary , etc., these groups just divided many within a parish. Many of these groups are very Masonic like too. “Legion”makes me think of the devil and Marian worship. Many in our area belong to these groups but don’t know the Catholic faith or reject it. Many in our area belong to these groups and are Freemasons too. A small number of traditional Catholics go to Eucharistic adoration and confession. Many groups are just social work with prayer thrown in.Where are you that you are getting Philly cultural Catholics…New Jersey? Just curious because I grew up in Philly and wondering where everyone is going.
I notice many Philly cultural Catholics have moved into our area. Most vote democrat. They leave their crime filled neighborhoods to create the same unholy mess into our area.
In the end, the domestic church is neglected. The faith starts at home. The father should be leading in home prayers too. Pray the rosary and read the Bible.
Yeah, this was in the 1800s.I do know the history of these groups very well. People should have been home working on the domestic church. Look at how many grandchildren aren’t even baptized.
As modern inventions gave people more free time, these groups in the 1900s were originally part of Catholic Action and did a lot of charitable works.
Don't criticize things you don't know the history of.
I would prefer Boxty and Jameson Sundays after Mass!No wonder the UK is being taken over by pagans.
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Viva, for your edification.
O Mary, conceived without sin.
Pray for us who have recourse to you.
The Legion Of Mary was founded in Dublin, Ireland on 7th September 1921. It is a lay Catholic organisation whose members are giving service to the church on a voluntary basis in almost every country.
The object of the Legion of Mary is the glory of God through the holiness of its members developed by prayer and active co-operation in Mary’s and the Churches work.
The unit of the Legion of Mary is called a praesidium, which holds a weekly meeting, where prayer is intermingled with reports and discussion. Persons who wish to join the Legion must apply for membership in a Praesidium.
WORKS OF THE LEGION
The Legion sees as its priority the spiritual and social welfare of each individual. The members participate in the life of the parish through visitation of families, the sick, both in their homes and in hospitals and through collaboration in every apostolic and missionary undertaking by the parish.
Every legionary is required to carry out a weekly apostolic work in the spirit of faith and in union with Mary.
“For all states of the laity the perfect example of spiritual and apostolic life in the most Blessed Virgin Mary, Queen of Apostles, who while leading the life common to all on earth, one filled with family concerns and labours, was always intimately united with her Son and ion an entirely unique way co-operated in the work of the Saviour……All should devoutly venerate her and commend their life and apostolate to her maternal care”.
I belong to auxiliary Legion of Mary. What is wrong with me praying the rosary? My husband is a Knight of Columbus. The Knights built the playground for the parish school. The Knights collect coats for the poor kids. When a woman came into the church naked and brutalized because her husband drove her out of their apartment, it was the knights who covered her with their jackets, ran to the dollar store around the corner and bought her a dress and stayed with her until cops came. Members of the Knights old and young were the first men to jump up and come to our priest's aid when he was almost attacked by a witch and they support the free clinic. What's wrong with that?Nothing wrong with collecting coats for poor children or buying a dress for a battered woman? Did they put rosaries and Catholic booklets into those pockets of coats. Did they give a Catholic Bible to comfort the woman? Charity without God is just man centered. Witches of today exist because God has been removed from society. Jesus says that there will always be poor…
This is another salient point. Some folks at our chapel don’t have any traditional Catholic family and have a limited social circle. They work secular jobs all week. Coffee and donuts after Mass is their only chance all week to step away from the banality of the world and have uplifting conversations with fellow Catholics. Not only do I fail to see the harm in this, but I thing it is outright praiseworthy. I know many good Catholic couples who met their spouses at such coffee hours, men at the parish who have hired younger men looking for work they met at coffee hour etc. this is a very good thing.I’m sorry but I’m talking about before the need for traditional Chapels. Also, it depends where you go too.
But this brings up an interesting thought, Jesus ate with tax collectors. Jesus ate with sinners. Where do we draw the line of how much socializing we do with people who are not Catholic? The concern is that we might become like the people we hang out with, so how are we suppose to socialize in a very secular world, where most of us don't live within 30 minutes of the church we attend.It's only about a 7.5 minute sermon, but I think he gives you the answer....
Maybe if you are weak in your Faith you should not socialize outside of Catholic circles, but if you are strong in the Faith, then God wants you to be an example for others. How do we know which is the right way to look at it? I know I am rambling.
Viva Cristo Rey is directly responsible for me now joining Ladislaus in leaving CathInfo.That's too bad, I often appreciated your input, Elwin. On the other hand, if you're just too special and important to interact with real people, as they are, I would suggest seeking a refund on your allegedly Catholic education.
So long, Farewell, Aufwiedersehen, Goodbye!
That's too bad, I often appreciated your input, Elwin. On the other hand, if you're just too special and important to interact with real people, as they are, I would suggest seeking a refund on your allegedly Catholic education.I usually stay out of this type of thing, but I can almost understand Lad leaving - anytime today's corrupt politics is involved in the conversation it often leads too many people into saying and doing crazy things.
That's too bad, I often appreciated your input, Elwin. On the other hand, if you're just too special and important to interact with real people, as they are, I would suggest seeking a refund on your allegedly Catholic education.Did I hurt your feelings? Truth hurts.
Viva Cristo Rey is directly responsible for me now joining Ladislaus in leaving CathInfo.You are directly responsible for your leaving. Not me. I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings. When speak about these organizations, I see my past sins and the present sins of my family members.
So long, Farewell, Aufwiedersehen, Goodbye!
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If women kept their mouths shut, there wouldn’t be any Catholic faith.But women have a way of keeping the faith, without being so verbally aggressive.
“ I am legion” was first in the Bible.The Roman legion (Latin: legiō, Latin: [ˈɫɛɡioː]), the largest military unit of the Roman army, was composed of Roman citizens serving as legionaries. During the Roman Republic the manipular legion comprised 4,200 infantry and 300 cavalry. After the Marian reforms in 107 BC the legions were formed of 5,200 men and were restructured around 10 cohorts, the first cohort being double strength. This structure persisted throughout the Principate and middle Empire, before further changes in the fourth century resulted in new formations of around 1,000 men.
Silly”is handing out rosaries to non believers. Most members of these organizations have children who left the church for Protestantism or atheism, witchcraft. Many of their grandchildren aren’t even baptized. Lay people are running the churches and are handing out communion while their children and grand children are living an unholy life. Many are serving God and Satan. The present church supports sodomy and divorce now.
How many members of the legion of Mary, KofC, Hibernians etc are divorced and remarried, children or grand children are shacking up, or are openly sodomites. I have a relative who is president of one of these groups while his kid is a sodomite. I have been disowned by my relatives which I see now as a blessing. Reading Corinthians brought me comfort and understanding.
St Patrick converted Ireland to Christianity by imitating Jesus and living scripture. He repented of his sins and he truly believed.
These groups were started when Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and modernism was already infiltrating the church. They divided families and there cliques and divisions within the parishes today. The Church is just a non profit business that does social work. Charity is supposed to be done in secret.
We should be crying out from the rooftops because many have become lukewarm.
That's too bad, I often appreciated your input, Elwin. On the other hand, if you're just too special and important to interact with real people, as they are, I would suggest seeking a refund on your allegedly Catholic education.You have said eloquently what I would like to say, Emile.
Did I hurt your feelings? Truth hurts.Viva, Now I understand what you are saying and of course you see things from the right Godly perspective and you are rightly upset.
Viva, I am worried about you.When we have Mr Bergolio and other infamous Catholics. How can any Catholic have peace?
You don't sound like you have peace.
:pray:Prayers for you and yours.
Viva, Now I understand what you are saying and of course you see things from the right Godly perspective and you are rightly upset.I had no problem with Emile. I goofed up there.
Emile was not hurt, but he was rather addressing Elwin, not you. This happens from time to time that we misread the intention. It shows that his sentiments were directed to you. I hope I am not speaking out of turn here.
Viva, Now I understand what you are saying and of course you see things from the right Godly perspective and you are rightly upset.Thank you, Nadir. I wasn't quite sure why Viva was addressing me, and didn't get around to asking her, but I think that you cleared up the confusion with an edifying gentleness.
Emile was not hurt, but he was rather addressing Elwin, not you. This happens from time to time that we misread the intention. It shows that his sentiments were directed to you. I hope I am not speaking out of turn here.
When we have Mr Bergolio and other infamous Catholics. How can any Catholic have peace?Aren't we suppose to have peace during tribulations, if we are truly with God? God provides the peace not the world.