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Offline Traditional Guy 20

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Christ was a socialist...
« on: January 11, 2015, 12:32:23 PM »
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  • Now I would like to emphasise that I don't mean the organised movement of socialism which is extremely materialistic itself, along with supporting internationalism and is also utopian and naive however I do mean Christ obviously supported social justice for his fellow man. In a world where Christians, yes even most Traditional Catholics, are extremely materialistic about everything I have to wonder if Christ would be happy that his followers love this era of hyper-capitalism?

    "You cannot serve both God and Mammon." Very telling words of Christ which resonates again in the words of the famed radical and Christian convert Orestes Brownson in his words against the America of the nineteenth century in that, "the religion of Saxendom was not God but Mammon." This shows the era which we live in right now where Phil Knight, Nike CEO, can feel happy about himself paying Malaysian women 60 cents an hour to make Nike shoes for him. In this "brave new world" we have profound riches for the rich of this country here who live in nicely mowed suburbs while they can send their children nice cars, send them to nice colleges and vacation at the Vail and shop at quarter-mile long malls where the foreign goods would have astounded the aristocracy of 500 years ago, while on the other hand we have massive loathsome poverty for the working-class who are treated like obselete tools or equipment who are easily exploited.

    "It is easier for a camel to enter the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter Heaven." In this materialistic world we live in religion is "medieval" or backwards. Everyone cares more about the NASDAQ and not their soul or the morality and culture of this country. It is economics not culture or humanity which is obsessed about these days. What is more important is not that your workers have enough to feed and clothe their children but the market and "balancing the books" and gutting the "unneeded means of production."

    "Blessed are the poor for yours is the Kingdom of God...Woe to you who are rich for you have already received your comfort." It needs to be emphasised also that the Western way- democracy, fee-market capitalism, liberalism, etc.- is the way of yesterday. With the immigration crises and the collapse of all empires the West can be considered the civilisation of yesterday. With the collapse of birthrates European women have gone way below replacement levels for population thanks to feminism. Though the richest of all societies America and Europe indeed appear to be yesterday's news with a rising Islam, China, and Latin America.

    To borrow from St. James' Epistle:

    "1 Go to now, ye rich men: weep and howl in your miseries, which shall come upon you.  2 Your riches are corrupted: and your garments are motheaten.  3 Your gold and silver is cankered: and the rust of them shall be for a testimony against you and shall eat your flesh like fire. You have stored up to yourselves wrath against the last days.  4 Behold the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which by fraud has been kept back by you, crieth: and the cry of them hath entered into the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth.  5 You have feasted upon earth: and in riotousness you have nourished your hearts, in the day of slaughter.  6 You have condemned and put to death the Just One: and he resisted you not."

    Yes I know with a post like this your usual libertarians and capitalist businessmen will call me a socialist and anti-Christian however I would like to also quote the words of Hillaire Belloc in terms of what kind of world we live in:

    "We are not approaching Socialism at all but a very different state of society in which the capitalist class shall be even more powerful and far more secure..."


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    Christ was a socialist...
    « Reply #1 on: January 19, 2015, 05:10:30 PM »
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  • Bravo!
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    Christ was a socialist...
    « Reply #2 on: January 20, 2015, 03:37:51 AM »
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  • I'd like to add one can see the Jesuits as an example (or the old Jesuits I should say). These men took vows of poverty, chastity, obedience, and the special fourth vow to the Pope. Having no material possessions, except the watches their families gave them on "loan" from the Jesuit community, let these men have their priorities in order, along with the teaching of young boys in a liberal education. The golden rule for these men was indeed "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" although unlike Communism it was voluntary.