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Offline Yeti

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Re: Chase Bank Shuts Down Mercola Accounts
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2023, 11:44:39 AM »
There are US laws and supporting SCOTUS decisions codifying that once you deposit money in the bank it is no longer yours.
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Yes, my understanding is that, to put it simply, you loan your money to the bank, and therefore you have the same right to it back as you have to money you lend to someone. You can't just go to their house and take it if they don't pay. You have to sue them. And in various conditions the government can cancel the loan. With banks this happens when they default, for example.

A lot of people learned this the hard way in the Great Depression when so many banks failed and people lost their life savings. Those people (and their children in many cases) stopped using banks at all for decades afterwards, keeping their money in cash at home. The government has been gradually making this practice illegal for decades by so-called "anti-money laundering" legislation that prohibits people from making large purchases with cash, such as a house or car, or making it very difficult.

I also knew someone who had a small balance on his credit card (a hundred bucks or so) and happened to be at the bank and after transacting his other business he tried to pay his balance off with some cash in his pocket. The bank would not allow him to do so, telling him they will not accept a single penny of cash in payment of any credit card balance. So that's another obstacle to people who want to use cash -- if you want to pay for things in cash, you aren't allowed to use a credit card either.

It is very surprising to me that conservatives seem to be completely unaware of this issue, especially considering the catastrophic effects it can have on personal freedom, such as what happened to John Mercola. You'd think people like DeSantis or Ted Cruz would be calling for "right to use cash" legislation that would prohibit things like this, and prevent companies from going "cashless" and refusing to accept payment in cash, which is becoming more and more prevalent. Actually it is already illegal for anyone to refuse payment in cash, as it says on every dollar bill, "This bill is legal tender for all debts, public and private". This means it can legally be offered to settle any debt. But this is no longer enforced, and basically ignored.

We are going to get to a point some day when you say the wrong thing to someone, or put something on FaceBook that the government doesn't like, and you're going to get "I'm sorry sir, your card is declined" next time you go to the supermarket or gas station. Again, it's bizarre that conservatives are doing nothing to oppose this.

Re: Chase Bank Shuts Down Mercola Accounts
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2023, 11:55:02 AM »
You'd think people like DeSantis or Ted Cruz would be calling for "right to use cash" legislation that would prohibit things like this, and prevent companies from going "cashless" and refusing to accept payment in cash, which is becoming more and more prevalent. Actually it is already illegal for anyone to refuse payment in cash, as it says on every dollar bill, "This bill is legal tender for all debts, public and private". This means it can legally be offered to settle any debt. But this is no longer enforced, and basically ignored.

We are going to get to a point some day when you say the wrong thing to someone, or put something on FaceBook that the government doesn't like, and you're going to get "I'm sorry sir, your card is declined" next time you go to the supermarket or gas station. Again, it's bizarre that conservatives are doing nothing to oppose this.

Yes, although it is true that the dollar is worth less each day, it is still the only way to currently purchase goods and services without being tracked (unless you count alternative currency, like metals, crypto, or barter), and you'd think the "conservatives" would want to maintain cash purchasing for their constituents....unless they don't want to maintain cash purchasing for their constituents (which is what I think you were intimating).


Offline OABrownson1876

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Re: Chase Bank Shuts Down Mercola Accounts
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2023, 11:56:17 AM »
And of course the Federal Reserve just announced in the last couple of weeks the Fed Now service, and of course they tell us the wonderful news: "Banks and credit unions of all sizes can sign up and use this tool to instantly transfer money for their customers, any time of the day, on any day of the year."  

And when you go to the Fed website you find out that there are fees out the wazoo!  But do not fear, the Fed is here!

Fed Now

Re: Chase Bank Shuts Down Mercola Accounts
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2023, 12:13:54 PM »
What's the solution? Everyone receives pay on their bank account...

Offline Mark 79

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Re: Chase Bank Shuts Down Mercola Accounts
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2023, 02:47:18 PM »
What's the solution? Everyone receives pay on their bank account...
Buy and stack precious metal bullion coins, including "junk" (pre-'64) silver coins.

Buy and stack other precious metals such as brass and lead.

Has anyone recently wired money internationally? It requires bank approval of your stated reason for wiring the money.