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Offline Patriley

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Catholics using EFT tapping
« on: December 28, 2024, 07:37:45 AM »
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  • I was just looking to see what the view is on the practice of EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) tapping for Catholics who suffer psychological wounds/ trauma? Would it be a bad idea? I only ask because a lot of the priests I talk to don't seem to know anything about the psychological practices used today.

    Some articles, that I don't think are traditional but are Catholic, say worst case is that it would open the door to demonic spirits because it is linked to and comes from eastern spirituality and it's new age and to stay away. But then others have said it's based on science and there's no sin in seeking medical help for a problem... So I'm not exactly sure what to think about it. I used to use it years ago and I really liked it and then I've used it recently with my last therapist but turned against it and went to confession for it cause I was afraid I was opening myself up to a false religion.

    Any thoughts and suggestions about this would be great. Thanks.

    Offline WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat

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    Re: Catholics using EFT tapping
    « Reply #1 on: December 28, 2024, 08:15:40 AM »
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  • Some articles, that I don't think are traditional but are Catholic

    It can't be Catholic if it's not traditional. You should follow the examples of Saint Dymphna and Blessed Mary. 

    Yes, "EFT" is a bad idea.

    Dump your "therapist". Avoid the pseudo science of psychiatry and psychology. If you're on any psych "meds", you should gradually cessate from it, ultimately, being completely off of it.


    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: Catholics using EFT tapping
    « Reply #2 on: December 28, 2024, 08:55:05 AM »
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  • There are people in whom the brain is so badly malfunctioning that they are a danger to themselves and others. For example, the impulsivity of bipolar disorder and the paranoia of schizophrenia result in high rates of homicide and ѕυιcιdє.

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    Offline Gray2023

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    Re: Catholics using EFT tapping
    « Reply #3 on: December 28, 2024, 09:07:15 AM »
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  • People are going to have different opinions.  My thought is that we can't just live in the 1950s.  If the Church has been problematic for the last 60 years, then we have no idea what the Church thinks on these topics.  EFT has been around for 30 years.  It is based off of eastern medicine, acupressure.  in some xases it has been the most effective tool for people who have ptsdfrom war.

    Personally I think the gap between Eastern medicine (Herb usage and the electrical system of the body) and western medicine (pharmaceuticals focused) has grown so much that most people do not know what being truly healthy is.

    Find someone who understands eft that doesn't add spiritualism to it.

    I have used it for years and many of my mental problems are no longer a problem.  It is just a tool.

    DM me if you want more info.

    In the beginning my husband learned a lot about it and assured me I wasn't doing anything offensive to God.  I had a hard time buying it at first.  It took him years to assure me.  The final push was when I found that learning how to help people with eft was an acceptable continuing education coursework for the American medical association. 

    Here is an article that also might be helpful.

    https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/purduetoday/2023/Q3/emotional-freedom-technique-research-supports-benefits-of-tapping-for-mental-health/#:~:text=In%20November%202022%2C%20the%20Tapping,EFT%20tapping%20work%20for%20them.
    Fatti Maschii, Parole Femine

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    Re: Catholics using EFT tapping
    « Reply #4 on: December 28, 2024, 09:12:19 AM »
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  • Emotional problems can cause real physical health issues.  I’m sure there’s a way to use EFT in a catholic manner.  

    Things like Reiki, on the other hand, is straight up bad.  I see no science there; only occult. 


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    Re: Catholics using EFT tapping
    « Reply #5 on: December 28, 2024, 09:12:57 AM »
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  • … it would open the door to demonic spirits because it is linked to and comes from eastern spirituality and it's new age and to stay away…

    Every competent exorcist testifies to these dangers.

    Even without "spiritualism," the openness and "empty mind" approach of similar "therapies" are a significant risk.  Even yoga carries risk.

    Who is surprised that PV "is sure" that there is a "Catholic" way of taking demonic risks?

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    Re: Catholics using EFT tapping
    « Reply #6 on: December 28, 2024, 09:16:38 AM »
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  • Successful withdrawal fron SSRI meds can take months and even years and should be titrated down slowly.
    Abrupt withdrawal can cause acute and frightening symptoms including electric shock type effects to the nerves, insomnia, agitation, paranoia and hallucinations- and even worse.
    I think its the withdrawal from meds that cause the psychosis of some of these school shooters and not actually being on the med itself.

    Benzodiazepine withdrawal (Xanax, Clonopin, Valium )is incredibly dangerous and will cause death if stopped abruptly.
    This is why Jordan Peterson went to Russia and was put in a medical coma for months to detox from Clonapin- apparently the family thought it was the only way.

    The best thing is to never start on these prescriptions, but if you are, withdrawal is serious business and not done willy-nilly.

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    Re: Catholics using EFT tapping
    « Reply #7 on: December 28, 2024, 09:21:37 AM »
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  • Successful withdrawal fron SSRI meds can take months and even years and should be titrated down slowly.
    Abrupt withdrawal can cause acute and frightening symptoms including electric shock type effects to the nerves, insomnia, agitation, paranoia and hallucinations- and even worse.
    I think its the withdrawal from meds that cause the psychosis of some of these school shooters and not actually being on the med itself.

    Benzodiazepine withdrawal (Xanax, Clonopin, Valium )is incredibly dangerous and will cause death if stopped abruptly.
    This is why Jordan Peterson went to Russia and was put in a medical coma for months to detox from Clonapin- apparently the family thought it was the only way.

    The best thing is to never start on these prescriptions, but if you are, withdrawal is serious business and not done willy-nilly.
    ^^^^ Agree.

    "I think its the withdrawal from meds that cause the psychosis of some of these school shooters and not actually being on the med itself."

    The psychosis can be (1) innate, (2) worsened by the SSRI, or (3) caused by sudden withdrawal from the SSRI.  Truly complicated. Few specialists can pierce the (((BigPharma))) agitprop to treat the patient to good effect.


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    Re: Catholics using EFT tapping
    « Reply #8 on: December 28, 2024, 09:52:01 AM »
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    Who is surprised that PV "is sure" that there is a "Catholic" way of taking demonic risks?
    I've not heard that EFT is demonic.  If you have evidence that it is, then show it.  If not, then shut up.

    Is accupressure demonic?  Is a chiropractic doctor a witch?  Just because it's eastern medicine doesn't mean it's bad.

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    Re: Catholics using EFT tapping
    « Reply #9 on: December 28, 2024, 10:18:22 AM »
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  • Most priests I have talked to do not object to acupressure or chiropractic work, and eft falls in line with that.

    The people who use this tool to get things end up going down a demonic path, but that is only because they are using a tool to get personal fulfillment leaving God out of the picture. (It is the same with witches using herbs for personal gain.) Anyone who leaves God out of the picture opens themselves up to demonic influence.
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    Re: Catholics using EFT tapping
    « Reply #10 on: December 28, 2024, 11:05:07 AM »
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  • Every competent exorcist testifies to these dangers.

    Even without "spiritualism," the openness and "empty mind" approach of similar "therapies" are a significant risk.  Even yoga carries risk.

    Who is surprised that PV "is sure" that there is a "Catholic" way of taking demonic risks?
    Eft is not an openess and "empty mind" tool.
    Fatti Maschii, Parole Femine


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    Re: Catholics using EFT tapping
    « Reply #11 on: December 28, 2024, 12:05:17 PM »
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  • EFT distracts with tapping while focusing on emotions and "energy."  Filling the mind with emotion and "energy" diminishes/excludes rational thought, hence a species of emptying the mind of rational thought, so is a veritable portal for extraordinary demonic activity.

    Neither chiropractic nor accupuncture/accupressure enlist "focus on emotions."  Your analogy is bullshit. It's not the tapping or pressure points that are the problem. The problem is the diminution/exclusion of rational thought, an analog for emptying the mind and placing oneself in a receptive state bereft of the spiritual defenses of a rational mind.

    Why am I no longer surprised that "trads" are gullible for quackery and New Age bullshit? "Trads" are wont to throw the baby out with the bathwater, so little discernment.


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    Re: Catholics using EFT tapping
    « Reply #12 on: December 28, 2024, 01:06:49 PM »
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  • To the OP, could you please explain a little bit about this treatment and how it works? I have never heard of it either.

    Basically, anything that attempts to use some supernatural force for curing someone is superstitious unless you're talking about praying to God for a return to health. If it attempts to use some natural mechanism, then it's fine.

    That's all I can say without knowing anything else about this treatment.

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    Re: Catholics using EFT tapping
    « Reply #13 on: December 28, 2024, 02:15:39 PM »
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    Filling the mind with emotion and "energy" diminishes/excludes rational thought, hence a species of emptying the mind of rational thought, so is a veritable portal for extraordinary demonic activity.
    Ridiculous.  The whole method of tapping involves rational thought because you are 1) focusing on negative emotions and 2) tapping in a coordinated way. 

    This is not some voodoo dance where one “feels the music” and gets carried away. 

    It’s a scientific fact that bad emotions can cause ill health.  It’s where the word “disease” comes come…dis-ease.  You’re “not at ease”.

    In the same way that massage and acupressure help relax the body and release stress, so does EFT help release stress. 

    I’m sure one can use EFT in some new-age way, but that goes with anything.  You can use a tool in the wrong way and paganize it just like former Catholics think prayer is a superstition. 

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    Re: Catholics using EFT tapping
    « Reply #14 on: December 28, 2024, 03:08:17 PM »
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  • I was just looking to see what the view is on the practice of EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) tapping for Catholics who suffer psychological wounds/ trauma? Would it be a bad idea? I only ask because a lot of the priests I talk to don't seem to know anything about the psychological practices used today.

    Some articles, that I don't think are traditional but are Catholic, say worst case is that it would open the door to demonic spirits because it is linked to and comes from eastern spirituality and it's new age and to stay away. But then others have said it's based on science and there's no sin in seeking medical help for a problem... So I'm not exactly sure what to think about it. I used to use it years ago and I really liked it and then I've used it recently with my last therapist but turned against it and went to confession for it cause I was afraid I was opening myself up to a false religion.

    Any thoughts and suggestions about this would be great. Thanks.

    I had to google "tapping":
     
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        Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT)

        A stress-relief technique that involves tapping on specific points of the body while focusing on an issue and repeating a self-acceptance statement:

        1. Think of an issue and measure how it makes you feel
        2. Create a statement that describes the issue and a statement of self-acceptance
        3. Tap the edge of your palm, below your little finger
        4. Tap the other points on your body, one at a time
        5. Repeat the sequence, often called a round, which takes about two minutes
    I would think that at the very least, numbers 1 and 2 should be replaced with some specific short prayerful meditation, perhaps on a specific saint who might be a patron saint known to help in cases of the particular trauma, or perhaps to Our Lord or Our Lady. But as it is above, 1 and 2 is a type new age self brainwashing technique far as I know.

    What I can say is that about 30 years ago, I was having major back, neck and fatigue problems which were diagnosed and eventually cured by a chiropractor who practiced "alternative medicine," he used a technique involving him applying slight resistance to my arm as I tried to lift it, while "tapping" certain, specific points on my body one at a time with his other hand. I cannot recall what that technique was called, but it worked, and it was amazing. Anyway, I am certain there is something to #4 if the doctor knows what he's doing.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

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