Author Topic: Modern women want to have their cake AND eat it too (Read 9053 times)

PartyIsOver221 · « **Reply #30 on:** August 09, 2011, 06:28:45 PM »

Quote from: Daegus

Good luck finding that one needle in a very large stack of hay..

I have yet to encounter any woman who wears skirts/dresses on a regular basis. It seems as though the only ones that do are the pagan African women and the Mohammedans that you would see on the BBC every day. The main problem is that these women aren't Catholic and live on the other side of the globe..

O, ye of little faith. :farmer:

If God desires you for marriage, and you want these things in a wife, she exists out there. Never stop believing that, because He provides.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #31 on:** August 09, 2011, 07:00:25 PM »

Quote from: PartyIsOver221

Quote from: Daegus
Good luck finding that one needle in a very large stack of hay..

I have yet to encounter any woman who wears skirts/dresses on a regular basis. It seems as though the only ones that do are the pagan African women and the Mohammedans that you would see on the BBC every day. The main problem is that these women aren't Catholic and live on the other side of the globe..

O, ye of little faith. :farmer:

If God desires you for marriage, and you want these things in a wife, she exists out there. Never stop believing that, because He provides.

:applause:

:rahrah:

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #32 on:** August 09, 2011, 07:21:23 PM »

Quote from: Daegus

Good luck finding that one needle in a very large stack of hay..

I know it's discouraging, but look... all you need to find is ONE.

MrsZ · « **Reply #33 on:** August 11, 2011, 02:10:45 PM »

I usually buy books used for the lowest price I can find. I looked up FW on Amazon.com and Half.com ... and while there were a few that were a couple dollars less than $8.00, I was suprised to see that it's still going to cost at least in the $5-$6 range for the paperback version. It seems to be holding it's value pretty well, currently. I bought a used copy a few years back and know I didn't pay that much. A lot of the time I can buy books on Amazon.com for 1 cent plus $3.99 s&h!

Anyway, I love this book and respect the memory of Mrs Andelin (who passed away in 2009, I believe). Her book has managed to enlighten and enrage equal numbers of women over the years ... proving what an important subject this is for women in our culture. There is no neutral response to what she taught through this book.

Her Mormonism comes through when she talks about things like "Celestial Marriage" and I guess in the mentioning of divorce .. but I think she also refers to avoiding divorce at all costs, fighting for one's H who's gone outside the marriage ...

I'm reading "Escape" by Carolyn Jessop, formerly of the FLDS cult ... and she mentions girls at her school called "nusses" a nickname for the term "righteousness." These girls were hated by the others because they used FW as their "bible" and were behaving in ways that the other girls felt was so fake and superficial. I can see that being a possibility .. However, I also think there are ways of incorporating the teachings into ones' life while still behaving in a realistic manner. Also, Mrs Andelin was not of the cult within the cult that FLDS is/was. Mrs. Andelin was the only wife of her husband. :smile:

Anyway, just my 2 cents.

MrsZ · « **Reply #34 on:** August 11, 2011, 02:32:28 PM »

There are currently multiple editions of FW in paperback form on half.com for 75 cents each! I clicked into one of the links and in the good and acceptable category, there are more than a few at that price!

SouthernBelle · « **Reply #35 on:** August 11, 2011, 04:03:47 PM »

In regards to Fascinating Womanhood ... While I had heard about this book at various times over the years, it wasn't until I had read several discussions about it over at the Fish Eaters website (which were primarily negative) that I decided to actually read it. I was quite surprised to find that rather than being "outraged" over the contents, it really just reiterated what I had already learned about the Christian role of marriage and motherhood.

When I was still a protestant, I attended quite a few women's Bible studies on Christian womanhood, modesty, marriage, and mothering. These were wonderful, and I learned so much. I haven't come across anything like them since I've converted to the Catholic faith, which is a shame; I sometimes feel as if it's a "sink of swim" approach.

MrsZ · « **Reply #36 on:** August 12, 2011, 03:12:02 PM »

SouthernBelle: I've felt that way as well. We no longer live in a Christian culture and we are really left to our own devices to try to figure it all out on our own. It seems to me that Catholics have never really had that public aspect to their faith like Protestants do and that even though it's changed in recent years with Catholic TV and Radio and book publishing, it's all in the Novus Ordo framework, which is problematic on multiple levels.

Traditional Catholic books tend to focus on spirituality and prayer first and foremost rather than providing a "how to" type book. I understand that and it makes sense. But sometimes Catholic materials are rather lofty and take a bit of effort to understand and apply. There are quite a few people who've recommended FW over the years from the Catholic world and frankly, I think it remains "the" best how to book in general for a wife to improve herself and her marriage.

Marcelino · « **Reply #37 on:** September 16, 2012, 10:24:50 PM »

:reading:

Thorn · « **Reply #38 on:** September 16, 2012, 10:51:46 PM »

Sad to say, I'm finding that trad Catholics think they know it all & prefer to fight among themselves over the faith instead of getting out there & DOING something for the faith. There's so much to be done!!

Tiffany · « **Reply #39 on:** September 17, 2012, 09:28:59 AM »

Quote from: Sophia

Considering the fact that I'm a traditional Roman Catholic young woman and I want a family AND I want to be a teacher AND open my own art school...I think that I can and there is nothing wrong with that. My mother and father have been together 2 years, 6 children, we're all Catholic and both my parents have careers. Absolutely nothing wrong with a woman wanting a career and a family.

Sophia see if your mom or your parish has a copy of Catholic Homeschooling by Mary Kay Clark. I don't have a copy here but I believe it's in there she writes about the time it took being involved in a parent operated school. I haven't read their newsletter in a couple of years but perhaps you could ask to speak to her. I'm sure anyone person involved in a private school can tell you how much work and time it takes away from home.

Instead of becoming a teacher and opening an art school, why not offer art classes to homeschoolers once a week? That would not interfere with your own family life so much. Secondly if you had a newborn or a stressful time in your family life you could simply take a break without consequence.