Speaking with John Allen of Crux about the question of whether pro-abortion Catholic politicians should be denied the Eucharist, Cardinal Timothy Dolan said that the American bishops have left that argument behind. “Most don’t think it’s something for which we have to go to the mat,” he said.

That interview with Cardinal Dolan appeared online last week. Then on Sunday, American Catholics went to Mass and heard the Gospel reading from St. Matthew (18: 15-20).

If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every word may be confirmed by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.
Don’t those words of our Lord provide a simple guide for pastors in approaching public figures who flout the teachings of the Church?

The American bishops have issued many public statements indicating that support for unrestricted legal abortion is morally indefensible. How many bishops have made a point of visiting offending politicians and speaking with them privately, admonishing them, trying to help them understand that they are in grave spiritual danger? We don’t know, and that’s appropriate. A private conversation should remain private.

But we do know that if those private conversations have taken place, they have not produced the desired effect. So we move to the next step suggested by the Lord: a conversation with “two or three witnesses.” At this point the private admonition would become a matter of public record—not as an abstract public statement, but as a rebuke to a specific individual. This, to my knowledge, has never happened to an American Catholic politician.

Finally, if the public rebuke does not do the trick, Jesus tells his disciples to treat the offender “as a Gentile”—that is, as one who is not in communion with the Church, and therefore someone who should not receive Communion. Thus Canon 915.

For lay Catholics (like myself) who have been arguing for years that the bishops should enforce Canon 915, this passage from St. Matthew’s Gospel might offer a fresh new approach. We have evidently failed to persuade our bishops of their duty; Cardinal Dolan says that they are no longer actively discussing the question. For that matter it might be argued, following the logic of that Gospel passage, that withholding Communion should come only after private and then public admonitions.

So let’s take a different tack, and ask our bishops to move forward just one small step at a time. If you aren’t prepared to safeguard the Blessed Sacrament, are you at least willing to admonish the sinner?

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Where are the Rummel brand of archbishopswhen we need them?

Where are the Rummel brand of archbishopswhen we need them?

Rummel pushed the modernist agenda of his day--Dolan is pushing the modernist agenda of his day.

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Where are the Rummel brand of archbishopswhen we need them?

Rummel pushed the modernist agenda of his day--Dolan is pushing the modernist agenda of his day.

I have known Novus Ordoites who were racist. Racial segregation and the hatred that it breeds are sins against charity and need to be discussed in confession.  

Hatred and mistreatment are sinful.  But segregation is not sinful in and of itself.  I don't think segregation breeds hatred anymore than extensive wholesale race mixing does.

For example, a plain ole straight up thug one, of course with his white woman, recently came into an upscale restaurant where I was enjoying my lunch.  He was too dumb to even order a beer properly--I can't remember what he did--but yes, he even struggled to simply order a beer.  Segregation would have prevented him from 1) being with a white woman, and 2) being in an estsblishment where he made a spectacle of himself.  Furthermore, such pursuits as white women, fancy restaurants, and late model Beamers with curb-feelers, all unattainable by legitimate use of his natural talents, is a strong motivation to push the negro into illicit activities such as the drug trade.  Thus, the desegregated society is a lose-lose for all.

Archbiship Rummel was right in what he did and we need to have more bishops in his mold who are ready to take on the pro-abortioin politicians who like to call themselvevs "Catholic."

I think we should keep in mind that Catholic politicians in the United States are at least as Catholic as Cardinal Dolan of New York or Archbishop Wuerl of Washington DC.  

If you have a problem with the Catholic theology of the Nancy Peloci's in politics, then you have a problem with the theology of the U.S. Catholic bishops.  Either you are Catholic or they are--it can't be both.