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Catholic Hospitals Under Attack
« on: August 09, 2013, 03:14:03 AM »
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  • Plans by three Catholic hospital systems in Wisconsin to deny admitting privileges to doctors who perform abortions would "be in active violation of federal law," Attorney General J. B. Van Hollen's Department of Justice said in a court filing last week.

    Federal law "provides that hospitals accepting federal funds may not discriminate against a physician because that physician has participated in or refused to participate in abortions," the state Justice Department said in its filing in federal court.

    According to experts on federal law, if doctors can prove they were not granted privileges specifically because they perform the procedure, the hospital systems — Wheaton Franciscan Healthcare, Columbia St. Mary's Health System and Hospital Sisters Health System — could lose federal dollars in the form of research and public health grants.

    Doctors who perform abortions would be required to obtain privileges at hospitals within 30 miles of their clinics under a new law that has been blocked until at least November by a federal judge. Seven doctors who provide abortions in the state lack privileges, and at least four are applying for them at religiously affiliated hospitals, according to their employer, Planned Parenthood of Wisconsin.

    The hospitals said they would not grant privileges to abortion providers, following confusion over their stance in federal court. In the abortion providers' challenge to the law, their attorneys said the privileges requirement would be especially difficult to meet because a large proportion of Wisconsin hospitals are religiously affiliated and opposed to abortion.

    But Matthew Lee, a doctor on the credentials committee at Wheaton Franciscan St. Joseph campus in Milwaukee, initially told the court he believed religiously affiliated hospitals in the state would be open to granting privileges to doctors who perform abortions.

    One week later, the chief medical officer for Wheaton Franciscan said her organization would not grant privileges to abortion providers, suggesting that Lee might not have fully understood the hospital's policies. A spokeswoman for Columbia St. Mary's said her organization had the same policy and, days later, so did the president and chief executive officer of the Hospital Sisters system.

    All three hospital systems cited their Catholic affiliations as the reason why they would deny privileges to abortion providers.

    Responding to a Planned Parenthood attorney's attempt to have the court note a Journal Sentinel article on Lee's affidavit, attorneys with Van Hollen's Department of Justice wrote, "The 'fact' suggested by this newspaper article — namely that the Wheaton Franciscan hospital system will deny privileges to any doctor who has participated in abortions...— is belied by federal law."

    The state was referring to the Church Amendments, federal statutes enacted after the Supreme Court affirmed a constitutional right to abortion in Roe vs. Wade in 1973. The laws are known for protecting federally funded hospitals and doctors from being required to participate in abortion or sterilization procedures. What is less widely understood, legal experts said, is that they also protect doctors who perform abortions, including in decisions about privileges.

    Asked about the legal standing of the Wheaton Franciscan policy at the time when Lee's affidavit was found to be inconsistent, the hospital's assistant general counsel, Matt Moran, said in a statement, "The medical staff and hospital board have discretion in making decisions on granting privileges and can consider the mission, values and operational needs of the organization. Requiring certain professional, ethical and character qualifications is recognized by the courts as valid and related to the operation of the hospital."

    A Wheaton Franciscan spokeswoman said the hospital had no further comments following the state's court filing.

    A spokeswoman for Columbia St. Mary's said she believes her hospital's privileging policy is in compliance with federal and state law, while a spokesman for Hospital Sisters did not respond to repeated requests for comment.

    But Gretchen Borchelt, senior counsel and director of state reproductive health policy at the National Women's Law Center, said she does not know of any case law that would support refusing privileges to a doctor who has performed an abortion when neither the hospital nor its personnel would be required to participate in the procedure.

    The law's protection for abortion providers has not been widely tested, Borchelt added.

    If any of the abortion providers presently seeking privileges brings a complaint against one of the three Catholic systems to the civil rights office at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, their cases could be strengthened by the systems' public declaration of their policies.

    "They can use the statements as evidence that even if (the hospitals) say it's not about religious belief, it is," Borchelt said.

    She added that in other states that have recently passed privileges requirements for abortion providers, religiously affiliated hospitals have denied the doctors' applications by citing their failure to meet other standards, such as admitting a certain number of patients per year. In Mississippi, a Baptist hospital did not provide doctors at an abortion clinic with an application for privileges because none of of its staff would write letters in support of the doctors, according to a court affidavit provided by the clinic's attorneys at the Center for Reproductive Rights.

    It is unclear whether Wisconsin lawmakers who enacted the new abortion law anticipated that it might place religiously affiliated hospitals in a quandary once abortion providers began seeking privileges.State Sen. Mary Lazich (R-New Berlin), the bill's author, said she was not aware of the Church Amendments of the 1970s, after initially asking whether they were part of Obamacare.

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    « Reply #1 on: August 09, 2013, 05:56:38 PM »
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  • And to think that all these novus ordo bishops were instructing their preists to pray for governments to reform the system of medical care in the U.S....

    It went like this:

    "That the government of the U.S. would overtake the supervision of the distribution of medical care in the U.S. Hear our prayer."

    then the congregants would say "Hear our prayer"

    The bishops can't say they didn't see this coming.  Who didn't see this coming is a better question.

    The bishops have hobnobbed and buddied up to the leftists for decades and have made it clear that they are part and parcel of the leftist pro-abortion movement but wihtout explicitly saying so.

    A for instance, leading up to the Iraq War, the current pope John Paul II and his staff of delegates spent months pre-war trying to meet with and trying to talk each side out of taking any action.  It was a very public act.  All to stop the Iraq War.  The pope failed but no one could blame him for trying.  He was blameless.

    However, when it comes to abortion, why aren't the Vatican diplomatic corps and the pope and the delegates and the 5,000 or so bishops constantly and publicly demanding a change in public policy in whatever country or territory in which they are stationed?  

    As for this current issue, the bishops were aware all along that the Obama healthcare takeover would involve the public funding of abortion and birth control.  There was no surprise here.

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    « Reply #2 on: August 09, 2013, 07:58:19 PM »
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  • Oh, this is crazy!  these so called "catholic" hospitals are not catholic.  One example I know of is St. Joes.  It has not been catholic for a very long time, I mean decades.  Even their handbook of services told the world services included sterilization and contraceptives.  Then it added abortion and still no one said a word.  the hospital helped to refer women for abortions even before that.  Our AZ Republic newspaper ran several articles on the mergers in the 90's about Catholic Healthcare West if it would change it's name due to accepting and referring abortions.  The nuns of the organization were quoted for saying, " Should we keep our name"CHW" or change it?"  And they continued with, "Well the Bishops say nothing and they don't care."

    You see, they are all against Christ and they work to be against Christ.  We Marxist shook hands with the church, those of masonry, it was a done deal.  Everything went to the cause of masonry.  You are talking about 60 years ago or more.  

    The federal gov't  had grants given to the church to do their dirty work agendas.  And in the wording was "take the grants and "keep your identity".  The gov't meant to do this to keep money coming in.  You know, it looks good to say you are giving to St. Vincent De Paul when they too support abortion.  They do here!  And have for a long time.  It is because they take the grants, they take the money!

    Catholic Extension, brags of taking over 1,000 grants.  The money pays for buliding of churches and paying for medical and dental for seminarians and their books.  Now who owns the church, new order.  The gov't!  How long has Catholic Extension been around? I think 50 years.


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