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Offline Lapantolady

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Catholic friend raising gay relative
« on: June 21, 2018, 07:22:08 PM »
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  • I have a traditional catholic friend whom I have known for about 4 years.  We have kids about the same age and we have slowly gotten to know them better.  But we have never been invited to their house. We either saw each other at church or invited them to our house.  I knew they were living with relatives, so I just figured they were trying to be considerate of them. But recently we were at an event where we met their nephew. He is eighteen or nineteen years old.  It was obvious by the way he dressed that he was gay, he even had a rainbow bracelet and his eyebrows drawn on.  They didn’t introduce us, he was just there. Now I wonder if they never invited us over for that reason. I know they have raised him from a young child, so I think they are enabling him.  I am not sure if I should just ignore it, or if I should be asking some questions, or reconsidering our friendship entirely. My main worry is that her kids are being raised with him, so some form of normalization is there. How will it effect my kids when they play together? We were planning to meet up regularly and even go on vacation together.  I wouldn’t let my kids read books or watch shows that normalize gayness, so what about friends? What would you do? 

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    Re: Catholic friend raising gay relative
    « Reply #1 on: June 21, 2018, 09:10:42 PM »
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  • Yikes, we truly live in scary times. Honestly, I would put up some distance for the time being, and then find an opportunity to discuss the matter. Raising a child who struggles with sins against nature is one thing, allowing them to wear rainbow bracelets is another. You are absolutely right to try to avoid that for your children, and to not expose them to that, or to children where that is considered “normal” or even just “something so-and-so does” is very dangerous. 


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    Re: Catholic friend raising gay relative
    « Reply #2 on: June 21, 2018, 09:31:24 PM »
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  • Definitely keep younger children away from him. Faggots are, per capita, disproportionately pedophiles compared to heterosexuals. Pedophilia is secretly tolerated in faggot culture and community, and there's a term, "chicken hawks", that's used non-judgmentally and humorously within the faggot community to refer to the pedos.

    The proportions of heterosexual and homosexual pedophiles among sex offenders against children: an exploratory study. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756


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    Previous investigations have indicated that the ratio of sex offenders against female children vs. offenders against male children is approximately 2:1, while the ratio of gynephiles to androphiles among the general population is approximately 20:1. The present study investigated whether the etiology of preferred partner sex among pedophiles is related to the etiology of preferred partner sex among males preferring adult partners. Using phallometric test sensitivities to calculate the proportion of true pedophiles among various groups of sex offenders against children, and taking into consideration previously reported mean numbers of victims per offender group, the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1. This suggests that the resulting proportion of true pedophiles among persons with a homosexual erotic development is greater than that in persons who develop heterosexually. This, of course, would not indicate that androphilic males have a greater propensity to offend against children.

    Regarding the very last sentence in the abstract, it's merely a subjective opinion, and it was likely inserted so the study would not be blacklisted by politically correct shills and social-engineers. However, the stats & findings are quantitative and very telling.


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    Re: Catholic friend raising gay relative
    « Reply #3 on: June 21, 2018, 10:29:12 PM »
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  • Avoid that family at all cost!!!  Be sure you sit down and speak to your children to see what they are thinking, asap!  Vacation together,  No Way!!

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    Re: Catholic friend raising gay relative
    « Reply #4 on: June 21, 2018, 10:46:32 PM »
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  • It certainly seems prudent to distance the children from them.

    But as adults, if you're close enough, probably worth talking about with them.  If you've been friends for four years and haven't had any red flags go up yet, that tells you that either they're convincing sociopaths or that they are ashamed of their nephew and want to pretend that he isn't the way he is and have no idea what to do about it.  Now I'm guessing they're not sociopaths, so they could probably use some support.  Maybe you're not the person to give it to them, but maybe you are.
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    Re: Catholic friend raising gay relative
    « Reply #5 on: June 21, 2018, 11:23:20 PM »
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  • but call a spade! this teenager is not gay, so don't use the word "gay"; he is at least effeminate and looking for trouble.

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    Re: Catholic friend raising gay relative
    « Reply #6 on: June 22, 2018, 12:32:45 AM »
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  • @Nadir, why wouldn’t you call him gay? Are you saying that there is no such thing? As in God made us to follow his will, and anything else is just perversion?  Or are you saying that everything together just constitutes a troubled teen? 

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    Re: Catholic friend raising gay relative
    « Reply #7 on: June 22, 2018, 12:58:26 AM »
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  • @Nadir, why wouldn’t you call him gay? Are you saying that there is no such thing? As in God made us to follow his will, and anything else is just perversion?  Or are you saying that everything together just constitutes a troubled teen?
    Thank you for asking, Lepantolady.
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    In response to your last question, this young man may be homosexual. As you describe him, he has taken on the appearances of somebody whose sexuality is confused to say the least, with his decoration and painted eyebrows. He has in all probability been swayed by his "educational" environment and the ambient culture to present himself as a deviate from normal manhood. Whether or not he is an active homosexual is unknown at this point but he looks to be headed in that direction.
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    So, not just a troubled teen, though probably confused with no real man to put him straight.
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    The point I was making is not to use the benign word "gay" for alleged perversion. Homosexuality is not "gay' - far from it.  It must be fought against and vanquished with the grace of God.  It is homosexual activists who promote the use of the word gay to paint homosexuality in a good light.
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    That is why I said "call a spade a spade". If we don't use the correct terminology we are only deceiving ourselves and playing into the hand of the deceiver.
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    I hope that helps. God bless you.


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    Re: Catholic friend raising gay relative
    « Reply #8 on: June 22, 2018, 01:14:19 AM »
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  • @Nadir, why wouldn’t you call him gay? Are you saying that there is no such thing? As in God made us to follow his will, and anything else is just perversion?  Or are you saying that everything together just constitutes a troubled teen?
    Gay means happy.  The word has been hijacked by homosexuals to try and "soften" the perception others have of them.  It doesn't sound nasty to be Gay
     
    It does sound nasty to be a sodomite, which is what a homosexual male is in fact.

    So don't be swayed by political correctness!  Just as abortion is not "birth control", homosexuals are not "gay".

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    Re: Catholic friend raising gay relative
    « Reply #9 on: June 22, 2018, 02:29:58 AM »
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  • There is little in this world more creepy and inherently disturbing than an openly feminine-acting sodomite.  Seriously, most of the people that hate sodomites are people that spend the most time around them, contrary to the narrative.


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    Definitely keep younger children away from him. Faggots are, per capita, disproportionately pedophiles compared to heterosexuals. Pedophilia is secretly tolerated in faggot culture and community, and there's a term, "chicken hawks", that's used non-judgmentally and humorously within the faggot community to refer to the pedos.
    It goes much deeper than that. Male-on-male pedophilia is fetishized within the faggot sub-culture almost as much as male-on-male rape is.  Every time you see some scandal about rape in the US Army (which is a huge thing, by the way, nice job never mentioning it,mainstream media) it's almost always a sodomite raping a weaker looking, usually short or scrawny, male.  Men are naturally dominant, as God intends, but because the lifestyle of the sodomite is an affront to His order, that dominance manifests in the worse, most perverse way possible.  

    The horror stories I've both read and heard of senior soldiers/officers, picking out some weak-looking guy, that they often safely assume lacks the spine to fight back, and violating him on an almost daily basis, are unbelievable.  They have no mercy. Those that do not immediately repent should literally be burnt alive, and I'm not even kidding.

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    Re: Catholic friend raising gay relative
    « Reply #10 on: June 22, 2018, 02:41:22 AM »
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  • I have a traditional catholic friend whom I have known for about 4 years.  We have kids about the same age and we have slowly gotten to know them better.  But we have never been invited to their house. We either saw each other at church or invited them to our house.  I knew they were living with relatives, so I just figured they were trying to be considerate of them. But recently we were at an event where we met their nephew. He is eighteen or nineteen years old.  It was obvious by the way he dressed that he was gay, he even had a rainbow bracelet and his eyebrows drawn on.  They didn’t introduce us, he was just there. Now I wonder if they never invited us over for that reason. I know they have raised him from a young child, so I think they are enabling him.  I am not sure if I should just ignore it, or if I should be asking some questions, or reconsidering our friendship entirely. My main worry is that her kids are being raised with him, so some form of normalization is there. How will it effect my kids when they play together? We were planning to meet up regularly and even go on vacation together.  I wouldn’t let my kids read books or watch shows that normalize gayness, so what about friends? What would you do?
    If when didn't introduce you to her nephew then it is likely that she is ashamed of him and only tolerates him. This is a sad situation that requires our prayers more than our intrusive questions. I think the best option is to say nothing directly and to not ask questions that would tend to make the situation worse.  


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    Re: Catholic friend raising gay relative
    « Reply #11 on: June 22, 2018, 03:29:57 AM »
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  • I know they have raised him from a young child, so I think they are enabling him.
    He was never brought to mass? Sounds fishy. I'd avoid the entire family completely. May be that the father or others are closet sodomites. Women have little discernment for picking up on the signs of  effeminate inclinations in men, and most men today also lack the sense to detect it. Best to avoid the whole family.

    Where is your husband in all of this, what does he have to say?
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    Re: Catholic friend raising gay relative
    « Reply #12 on: June 22, 2018, 03:34:45 AM »
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  • There is little in this world more creepy and inherently disturbing than an openly feminine-acting sodomite.  Seriously, most of the people that hate sodomites are people that spend the most time around them, contrary to the narrative.

    It goes much deeper than that. Male-on-male pedophilia is fetishized within the faggot sub-culture almost as much as male-on-male rape is.  Every time you see some scandal about rape in the US Army (which is a huge thing, by the way, nice job never mentioning it,mainstream media) it's almost always a sodomite raping a weaker looking, usually short or scrawny, male.  Men are naturally dominant, as God intends, but because the lifestyle of the sodomite is an affront to His order, that dominance manifests in the worse, most perverse way possible.  

    The horror stories I've both read and heard of senior soldiers/officers, picking out some weak-looking guy, that they often safely assume lacks the spine to fight back, and violating him on an almost daily basis, are unbelievable.  They have no mercy. Those that do not immediately repent should literally be burnt alive, and I'm not even kidding.
    Excellent contribution. Thanks for the posting.
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    Re: Catholic friend raising gay relative
    « Reply #13 on: June 22, 2018, 03:35:48 AM »
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  • Definitely keep younger children away from him. Faggots are, per capita, disproportionately pedophiles compared to heterosexuals. Pedophilia is secretly tolerated in faggot culture and community, and there's a term, "chicken hawks", that's used non-judgmentally and humorously within the faggot community to refer to the pedos.

    The proportions of heterosexual and homosexual pedophiles among sex offenders against children: an exploratory study. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756


    Regarding the very last sentence in the abstract, it's merely a subjective opinion, and it was likely inserted so the study would not be blacklisted by politically correct shills and social-engineers. However, the stats & findings are quantitative and very telling.
    Worth repeating, excellent. Thanks.
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    Re: Catholic friend raising gay relative
    « Reply #14 on: June 22, 2018, 11:14:56 AM »
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  • I think I will try to answer questions in one post. I have never met the nephew before, so he has not been to mass that I know of. He was homeschooled. I know he has a job now, so that may have been influential in his choices. My friend is a catholic convert, so she was Protestant before. All the family that live close to them are Protestant as well, and they sound enmeshed. 
    I can see my friend being ashamed of her nephew. I know they have commented that they don’t agree with his choices, but since he is not their child they don’t feel they can enforce standards the way they can with their kids.  Not knowing what they meant specifically I guessed they were talking about him coming to mass.  They also mentioned that since the house they were living in was not their house they couldn’t lay down the law.  I personally don’t agree with either of those statements. Either he needs to adhere to their standards or live with a different relative. And I would not live where I had to subvert my catholic faith. I understand they sold the home they lived in so they could care for another family member in their home. 
     I have noticed a few red flags, but mostly it was the enmeshment and lack of boundaries with her family.  
      My hubby doesn’t know them quite as well as I do, so he wants to know more first. I think he is planning to speak to the husband. 

     

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