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Offline Matthew

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Re: Cathinfo
« Reply #15 on: Today at 09:39:34 AM »
It does if you are young
I don't think that is true.

Do you have children? I've seen large families where all the children have the same "lifestyle", level of activity, and eat at the same table -- yet some just magically start getting obese at a certain age, as if a switch was thrown. Their genes, their body's blueprint desperately wants to be that different shape. It's sad, because you know it's not their fault, and that they will have to feel hungry at all times if they want to even fight it.

What form of gluttony are you proposing that "fat" child is guilty of? He doesn't eat between meals (praepropere), he isn't eating exotic food, he isn't eating "too much", just eating until he feels full LIKE YOU DO (don't deny it). He isn't eating like a pig in a trough, but eating in the same manner/speed as all the other children. And he certainly isn't getting his own custom plate of food prepared; he's eating from the same table.

So...once you've eliminated all the forms of gluttony -- how is he guilty of gluttony? You have to be specific.


The 5 forms of gluttony spells out the acronym PLANS by the way. This CI member should have re-ordered it; I would have.

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In his Summa Theologica (Part 2-2, Question 148, Article 4), St. Thomas Aquinas reiterated the list of five ways to commit gluttony:
  • Laute – eating food that is too luxurious, exotic, or costly
  • Studiose – eating food that is excessive in quality (too daintily or elaborately prepared)
  • Nimis – eating food that is excessive in quantity (too much)
  • Praepropere – eating hastily (too soon or at an inappropriate time)
  • Ardenter – eating greedily (too eagerly)


Offline FarmerWife

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« Reply #16 on: Today at 10:37:13 AM »
Being overweight does not equal gluttony.

Not everyone has the same genes, metabolism, knowledge of nutrition/diet, or lifestyle. You need to broaden your horizons. You are extremely narrow minded.

You can be a glutton and be completely "fit" with an ideal BMI. Meanwhile, some who are obese are extremely disciplined and never eat junk or overeat.
Yes, there is some overlap there, but it's not 1:1 or something you can assume.

When you get a bit older (grow up?) you will discover this for yourself. Apparently you haven't experienced the world very much yet. Your view of reality seems to be extremely narrow and limited.

In fact, I'm going to say "Just wait until you get older". I used to be able to eat whatever I wanted when I was young too. I had zero compassion for the other side. Well, this is probably my punishment, having to deal with know-it-all youngsters like you. Now I know how foolish I was.
Most "obese" people that I know are impulsive and make poor choices/decisions (unrelated to food). I also find them undependable and unkind. These are the same arguements that the fat acceptance movement uses to justify being fat. 


Offline DirigeNos

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Re: Cathinfo
« Reply #17 on: Today at 10:44:09 AM »
Body building is rather prideful and vain. I don't think any of the saints would have been bloggers and body builders. Also, best to leave the spiritual instruction to priests. Everyone these days wants to be a social influencer. Everyone thinks they are qualified now to teach catechism & Catholic doctrine to the world on youtube and instagram. Like Taylor Marshall. Teaching your children & family, yes you are obliged to. Teaching the world - be careful unless you are under the direction of a priest. Getting views and an online following by saying "stay away from social media" sounds rather hypocritical.        

Re: Cathinfo
« Reply #18 on: Today at 07:40:16 PM »
How many people actually look at the ingredients in the food they eat? Sugar especially via high fructose corn syrup is one of the biggest factors. Then there is just processed sugar and if you pound soft drinks and coffee in place of water you definitely going to be fat. It’s not just the amount of food people eat it’s the ignorance of what’s actually in it. Remember the big deal with the saturated fats in the news not so long ago. It’s definitely an ignorance and gluttony problem not genes. The people who are fat because of genetics are a small percentage. 

Online Gray2023

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« Reply #19 on: Today at 08:00:17 PM »
How many people actually look at the ingredients in the food they eat? Sugar especially via high fructose corn syrup is one of the biggest factors. Then there is just processed sugar and if you pound soft drinks and coffee in place of water you definitely going to be fat. It’s not just the amount of food people eat it’s the ignorance of what’s actually in it. Remember the big deal with the saturated fats in the news not so long ago. It’s definitely an ignorance and gluttony problem not genes. The people who are fat because of genetics are a small percentage.
I think we need to remember that cortisol (the stress hormone) has been a great factor in the increase of obesity.  The food stresses us out, the increase in allergens stress us out, the fast pace of life, the overbooking of life, and so on and so on. I know in my case that was a very big factor.   Once I learned stress management and did better exercises, like resistance training, I was able to make progress on weight loss.