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« on: April 24, 2013, 01:15:08 AM »
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  • Do you know a woman who is very capable in a given field?

    Women have been known to "rise to the occasion" and fill many roles, usually by necessity. In the modern world, they are often the more responsible ones, getting good grades in school, going to college, developing promising careers.

    (The public school system is designed for females -- men and women learn differently, so you can't have co-ed education without favoring one or the other. Well, as a matter of fact the public school system, as it exists today, favors the female mind. But I digress.)

    As a result, countless men today have female boss(es) over them.

    What should a good Traditional Catholic think about this?

    It is not ideal for woman be in a position of power over men. That is not how God designed things. Having men be in positions of authority -- as an ideal -- is a part of the natural law, and hence Catholic culture.

    Women can and do fill the void whenever men create one by their own degeneracy or negligence. But it's still a shame each and every time men DO leave a void.

    Not saying anything bad about any individuals -- it's a question of tolerable, good, better, best.  It's a question of ideals and principles.

    CathInfo is always trying to set the example, discussing things philosophically and establishing ideals, even while NOT condemning individuals alive today.

    Remember the case of the SSPX school that forfeited a game because the opposing team had a female on it? It wasn't because the female was incapable or "good for nothing", or because they had something personally against her. It was because they couldn't -- on principle -- play full-contact sports against a female.

    The best men always live by their principles. That is why they are admired.

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    « Reply #1 on: April 24, 2013, 11:19:33 AM »
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  • Our society is disordered, and the Catholic Church post-Vatican II is no help at all, to put it kindly.  God willing, this young capable woman will meet up with a Traditional Catholic man who will set her straight.  

    Without meeting a Traditional Catholic man, that capable woman has a very high chance of landing her soul in Hell forever!



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    « Reply #2 on: April 24, 2013, 04:20:45 PM »
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  • Our Lord doesn't condemn to hell women who take the place of irresponsible men.  No, a woman cannot fill the place sufficiently, but it is better than nothing--or the State filling the role of parents and teachers.
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

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    « Reply #3 on: April 24, 2013, 04:33:39 PM »
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  • Article 41.2 of the Irish Constitution states

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    1° [...] the State recognises that by her life within the home, woman gives to the State a support without which the common good cannot be achieved.

    2° The State shall, therefore, endeavour to ensure that mothers shall not be obliged by economic necessity to engage in labour to the neglect of their duties in the home.

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    « Reply #4 on: April 24, 2013, 04:43:06 PM »
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  • An obvious Irish example is women and the pro-life movement. Several groups arrange workshops and seminars so women can become effective pro-life leaders. Niamh Ui Bhriain of the Life Institute is the 'Irish' Lila Rose.

    Pro-life feminism is a word you hear often.

    Johnnette Benkovic is quite popular. I don't watch EWTN but many traddies attend her 'Women of Grace' events in Ireland.

    It's a very interesting topic.


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    « Reply #5 on: April 24, 2013, 04:50:24 PM »
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    As a result, countless men today have female boss(es) over them.

    What should a good Traditional Catholic think about this?

    It is not ideal for woman be in a position of power over men. That is not how God designed things. Having men be in positions of authority -- as an ideal -- is a part of the natural law, and hence Catholic culture.


    It's very silly that a man has a female boss or a woman is in a position of power. It's promoted as equality. I mentioned on another thread that my relatives parish was late in getting "altar girls". It has caught on and now, you have people in the parish saying the girls can serve better than the boys. The whole point is missed.

    A priest in Maynooth seminary supposedly said "there should be no t*ts in the sanctuary". Not polite but it is absurd to have a woman in the sanctuary.

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    « Reply #6 on: April 24, 2013, 04:52:24 PM »
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  • I put my foot in it once when I told a girl the idea of a female theologian is silly. I was informed she has a degree in theology.

    Capable women. Good womenfolk are quite rare.

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    « Reply #7 on: April 24, 2013, 04:55:56 PM »
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    As a result, countless men today have female boss(es) over them.


    Yes, but some men have ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ or  womanly men as their boss.


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    « Reply #8 on: April 24, 2013, 05:09:31 PM »
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    Our society is disordered, and the Catholic Church post-Vatican II is no help at all, to put it kindly.


    A key point. Ironically in the seminary in Maynooth, Ireland, you have more women studying theology than you have men studying to be novus ordo priests. And the theology they are getting is not even Catholic.

    Girls, who attend the SSPX and in Tradition need to resist and not go to university or take these jobs.

    A good summary of the Vatican II Church is Leanne Moore a  graduate from Mary Immaculate college (Sister of Mercy) in Limerick headlining the 'gαy Pride' parade a few years ago.

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    « Reply #9 on: April 25, 2013, 10:00:39 PM »
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  • My college degree is helping me to be a better homeschooling parent but I gave up working a few years ago to be a stay at home mom.  I plan to return to work (out of financial necessity) when the children have moved out.  My hubby would like me to start my own business.

    BTW--I got my degree online.

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    « Reply #10 on: April 25, 2013, 10:07:21 PM »
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  • I agree with women having specific roles in society. I think some professions are better suited to women. For example, nurses, teachers in elementary school, etc. What irks me is seeing them in police or military uniform, side by side with men, as one example. But like I say at the end of most of my posts, what do you expect? These are the fruits of v2.
    Regina Angelorum, ora pro nobis!


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    « Reply #11 on: April 29, 2013, 10:01:15 AM »
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  • To the person who gave me (Frances) a thumbs down?

    Why ?  I had a very specific situation in mind--that of my Grandma, (RIP).  She converted to the Catholic Faith in from Lutheranism.  She married a Catholic man, my grandfather, at age 17.  They had three children, the youngest, age two, when he deserted the family .  After the war, he turned up "married" to another woman.  Grandma accepted a civil divorce and raised the children on her own in an era before welfare, head start, food stamps, etc.  The eldest two children survived to adulthood, (youngest sucuмbed to diptheria) .  Grandma remained Catholic, as did the two children.  Grandma died in 2001, a Catholic, my uncle, the middle child, in 2009, a Catholic.  The oldest child is alive in her late 90s, also Catholic.  

    Grandma had any number of opportunities to "remarry.". She remained faithful to Our Lôrd.  I find no fault  with Grandma.  She was not a feminist, only a woman who made the best of a very difficult life, and God blessed her for her sacrifices.  
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.