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Can you be Catholic and an Ethno-Nationalist
« on: May 05, 2019, 09:58:23 AM »
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  • It’s is morally right to be an ethno-Nationalist? What does the church say about such beliefs?

    I’ve always considered myself one, but something in me is questioning it now. I’m wondering if it’s Christ reaching out to me. I could use some male  guidance in this area. If it is offensive to God, should I confess it? And should I make a public statement against it? I have spoken out about how we need to fight for European survival quite openly. That it is legitimate to want to preserve our culture above others. That by giving each culture their own country we can bring down crime rates, and stop Persecution of one race against another. 

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    Re: Can you be Catholic and an Ethno-Nationalist
    « Reply #1 on: May 05, 2019, 10:16:54 AM »
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  • Ethno-nationalist? In normal times such a word would not exist, and asking your question would be akin to asking "can you be a Catholic and ...".

    Moderator: Why not put something innocent, like "breathe"?
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    Re: Can you be Catholic and an Ethno-Nationalist
    « Reply #2 on: May 05, 2019, 11:19:44 AM »
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  • I think that last response was uncalled for, unless you were trying to be witty.

    VW asked a valid question. I always think of The Catholic Monarch, Queen Isabella. She knew who the trouble makers/invaders were and dealt with them.

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    Re: Can you be Catholic and an Ethno-Nationalist
    « Reply #3 on: May 05, 2019, 11:39:59 AM »
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  • I think that last response was uncalled for, unless you were trying to be witty.

    VW asked a valid question. I always think of The Catholic Monarch, Queen Isabella. She knew who the trouble makers/invaders were and dealt with them.
    I'm pretty sure what he meant is that in normal times everyone would be an ethno-nationalist. Just as every Catholic defecates and sees no contradiction in the two, he says being an ethno-nationalist and a Catholic wouldn't be seen as contradictory at all in sane times. Indeed, at no other point in history were people expected to willingly let themselves become minorities in their own countries. 

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    Re: Can you be Catholic and an Ethno-Nationalist
    « Reply #4 on: May 05, 2019, 11:43:16 AM »
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  • Thank you Forlorn. 
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    Re: Can you be Catholic and an Ethno-Nationalist
    « Reply #5 on: May 05, 2019, 11:45:07 AM »
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  • I'm pretty sure what he meant is that in normal times everyone would be an ethno-nationalist. Just as every Catholic defecates and sees no contradiction in the two, he says being an ethno-nationalist and a Catholic wouldn't be seen as contradictory at all in sane times. Indeed, at no other point in history were people expected to willingly let themselves become minorities in their own countries.
    Correcto.
    Moreover, I was serious when I indicated that I never heard the term ethno-nationalist till this posting.  
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    Re: Can you be Catholic and an Ethno-Nationalist
    « Reply #6 on: May 05, 2019, 02:15:08 PM »
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  • I thought of Isabella of Spain too(I named my middle girl after her. I think that’s why she’s so spunky 🤣) , but I was more concerned over that we would separate all non white nationalities. They would all return to their respective countries, and that would included Christians of color too.


    What I’m struggling with is, I do not in fact hate anyone, but I know the the forced diversity we are living in goes against human nature. We were never meant to live all mashed up together respecting everyone’s culture, and religion. It is in fact more dangerous for Christians. I wonder how a Catholic would picture such a separation taking place that would Be pleasing to Our most Holy God, and lord Christ.

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    Re: Can you be Catholic and an Ethno-Nationalist
    « Reply #7 on: May 05, 2019, 02:17:25 PM »
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  • Ethno-nationalism is good and permitted by God. The apostle Paul speaks to the Romans about his own ethno-nationalism. He tells them he was willing to be anathema from Christ for his own people & nation (Jews), if it meant not offending God resulting in the anathema. You can't get any more ethno-nationalism than that example.
    Romans 9:3-5 (Douay-Rheims)
    [3]For I wished myself to be an anathema from Christ, for my brethren, who are my kinsmen according to the flesh, [4] Who are Israelites, to whom belongeth the adoption as of children, and the glory, and the testament, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises: [5] Whose are the fathers, and of whom is Christ, according to the flesh, who is over all things, God blessed for ever. Amen.
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    [3] "Anathema": A curse. The apostle's concern and love for his countrymen the Jews was so great, that he was willing to suffer even an anathema, or curse, for their sake; or any evil that could come upon him, without his offending God.
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    Re: Can you be Catholic and an Ethno-Nationalist
    « Reply #8 on: May 05, 2019, 02:19:31 PM »
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  • Ethno-nationalism is good and permitted by God. The apostle Paul speaks to the Romans about his own ethno-nationalism. He tells them he was willing to be anathema from Christ for his own people & nation (Jews), if it meant not offending God resulting in the anathema. You can't get any more ethno-nationalism than that example.

    Romans 9:3-5 (Douay-Rheims)

    [3]For I wished myself to be an anathema from Christ, for my brethren, who are my kinsmen according to the flesh, [4] Who are Israelites, to whom belongeth the adoption as of children, and the glory, and the testament, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises: [5] Whose are the fathers, and of whom is Christ, according to the flesh, who is over all things, God blessed for ever. Amen.

    Douay-Rheims commentary:

    [3] "Anathema": A curse. The apostle's concern and love for his countrymen the Jews was so great, that he was willing to suffer even an anathema, or curse, for their sake; or any evil that could come upon him, without his offending God.

    Edit: sorry for the double post
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    Re: Can you be Catholic and an Ethno-Nationalist
    « Reply #9 on: May 05, 2019, 02:26:54 PM »
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  • So if the apostle Paul had such great concern and love for his own race & nation, why can't white European caucasoids have the same disposition towards their own people?
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    Re: Can you be Catholic and an Ethno-Nationalist
    « Reply #10 on: May 05, 2019, 05:29:29 PM »
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  • So if the apostle Paul had such great concern and love for his own race & nation, why can't white European caucasoids have the same disposition towards their own people?
    Because the European has lost the faith and thus their minds. Without the faith LIVED, the European is easy pray for anything. They have been contracepting, aborting, and homosexualizing themselves for like 60 years now. It is all because they abandoned the faith.
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    Re: Can you be Catholic and an Ethno-Nationalist
    « Reply #11 on: May 05, 2019, 10:10:36 PM »
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    Because the European has lost the faith and thus their minds. Without the faith LIVED, the European is easy pray for anything. They have been contracepting, aborting, and homosexualizing themselves for like 60 years now. It is all because they abandoned the faith.
    Not any more than the Jews who lost their Faith by rejecting the Messiah Who fulfilled the Faith of their fathers. Yet, the apostle Paul had great concern and love for his own race & nation, most of whom were apostates for rejecting their Messiah, and Paul was willing to be accursed from Christ if it meant saving his race & nation as long as it didn't offend Christ.

    If the apostle Paul can have an ethno-nationalist disposition for his own kinsmen who crucified the Lord God, then surely the white European caucasoid can be ethno-nationalists, too, as it's a hedge against global campaign to eradicate the white race and the remnants of Christendom.
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    Re: Can you be Catholic and an Ethno-Nationalist
    « Reply #12 on: May 06, 2019, 11:20:23 AM »
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  • Last Tradhican wrote :Because the European has lost the faith and thus their minds. Without the faith LIVED, the European is easy pray for anything. They have been contracepting, aborting, and homosexualizing themselves for like 60 years now. It is all because they abandoned the faith.

    Not any more than the Jews who lost their Faith by rejecting the Messiah Who fulfilled the Faith of their fathers. Yet, the apostle Paul had great concern and love for his own race & nation, most of whom were apostates for rejecting their Messiah, and Paul was willing to be accursed from Christ if it meant saving his race & nation as long as it didn't offend Christ.

    If the apostle Paul can have an ethno-nationalist disposition for his own kinsmen who crucified the Lord God, then surely the white European caucasoid can be ethno-nationalists, too, as it's a hedge against global campaign to eradicate the white race and the remnants of Christendom.
    I do not understand your logic, unless you do not believe my observation that the Europeans so easily abandoned their identity and culture as a result of their first losing the faith.  By first abandoning the Faith , the European slowly lost his mind and committed the suicide of contracepting and aborting the future generations of Europe, and those that survived were homosexualized (sexual perverted ) and are producing offspring that are even more corrupted.

    The Jews rejected Christ as the Messiah, however, many converted and the ones that opposed St. Paul still did keep their faith and did not contracept, abort and homo sexualize themselves at the time of St. Paul.

    Sure St. Paul was proud of his own race and people, so was everyone in the world throughout all of man's existence, till the last 15 years or so. 
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    Re: Can you be Catholic and an Ethno-Nationalist
    « Reply #13 on: May 06, 2019, 12:51:54 PM »
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  • I know most whites have mostly abandoned God and His natural and Divine Law. However, No sin is worse than rejecting Jesus Christ and effectively crucifying Him, which is what most of the Jews did to the Messiah. That is worse than Europeans welcoming cultural Marxism after once having the Catholic Faith. Apostle Paul still manifested an ethno-nationalism by having love and concern for his own people that he would have become accursed from Christ for those very Christ-haters & murderers, if it also meant not offending God that resulted in anathema. Ethno-nationalism is good and a natural inclination for preserving a collective, homogenous people as exhibited by St. Paul. It's warranted by God. The scriptures further prove it in 2 Esdra 4. Read it. The Israelites built a wall and armed themselves with swords, spears and other weapons to keep out heathens who sought to harm them. Sound familiar? There is nothing wrong with white caucasoids, whether in Europe or North America, manifesting ethno-nationalism to preserve their own people and help revive a culture that's being eradicated by forces (global Jewry) of Antichrist. Ethno-nationalism can also help point those people to the Catholic Faith, too. If you can't understand this simple logic, then it's because you either don't want to understand it or you have cognitive limitations requiring remedial exercises.
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    Re: Can you be Catholic and an Ethno-Nationalist
    « Reply #14 on: May 06, 2019, 01:12:40 PM »
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  • I know most whites have mostly abandoned God and His natural and Divine Law. However, No sin is worse than rejecting Jesus Christ and effectively crucifying Him, which is what most of the Jews did to the Messiah. That is worse than Europeans welcoming cultural Marxism after once having the Catholic Faith. Apostle Paul still manifested an ethno-nationalism by having love and concern for his own people that he would have become accursed from Christ for those very Christ-haters & murderers, if it also meant not offending God that resulted in anathema. Ethno-nationalism is good and a natural inclination for preserving a collective, homogenous people as exhibited by St. Paul. It's warranted by God. The scriptures further prove it in 2 Esdra 4. Read it. The Israelites built a wall and armed themselves with swords, spears and other weapons to keep out heathens who sought to harm them. Sound familiar? There is nothing wrong with white caucasoids, whether in Europe or North America, manifesting ethno-nationalism to preserve their own people and help revive a culture that's being eradicated by forces (global Jewry) of Antichrist. Ethno-nationalism can also help point those people to the Catholic Faith, too. If you can't understand this simple logic, then it's because you either don't want to understand it or you have cognitive limitations requiring remedial exercises.
    You're arguing to a non-existent opponent. No one ever defended or even mention Jews before you, nor did anyone condemn ethno-nationalism. Stop putting words in his mouth. 

     

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